Genealogy shows that all U.S. Presidents are related to John "Lackland" Plantagenet:

In 1605, there was an assassination attempt on King James (The Gunpowder Treason Plot).

King James, of course is the one who authorized the translation of the bible into the common English language.

Among the conspirators were Guy Fawkes, who many may now be familiar with due to the movie “V for Vendetta”, and another man by the name of Thomas Percy.

If the plot had been successful, there is no telling how long it would have been before we had a good English translation of the bible that could be widely distributed.

When the descendants of Thomas Percy moved to America, they changed their last name to Pierce so as not to be associated with this past.

One of those descendants was Pauline Pierce. Pauline had a friend by the name of Nellie O'Hara. O’Hara met a man by the name of Frank Harris who was a famous author and friends of Aleister Crowley. Nellie and Harris lived as man and wife (although they never officially married).

If you are familiar with Crowley, you know he was famous for his “sex magick rituals”, which is nothing more than devil worship during an orgy. (sorry for putting it so bluntly)

In 1924, Pauline Pierce, Nellie O’Hara and Frank Harris were visiting France. Aleister Crowley (who is friends with Harris) is also in France. There is no proof the two groups ever met at this time, but nine months later, Pauline gave birth to a girl named Barbara Pierce. Although she was married at the time, Pauline’s husband did not travel with them to France.

There is some speculation (without proof of course), that Barbara was the result of this supposed connection with Crowley.

Barbara Pierce grew up to marry a George H.W. Bush.
Here is a picture of Crowley, and also of George and Barbara Bush:





Now moving beyond speculation, Crowley also had a friend by the name of Jack Parsons.

Parsons called himself The Antichrist when he performed Aleister Crowley’s Thelemic rituals to create a new sort of human being that would finally destroy Christianity.

He hosted parties with guests including Robert Heinlein, Ray Bradbury, and L. Ron Hubbard. Crowley called Hubbard “Ron the seer”.
Jack was a cofounder of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (Jack Parsons Lab) and his innovations in rocketry made our space program a reality. He died officially on June 17, 1952 as the result of a chemical explosion in his laboratory. His wife, Marjorie Cameron, arrived after the explosion but before the ambulance had left. The attendants would not let her ride in the ambulance nor was she allowed to see him in the hospital. What is most outrageous is that the police violated standard procedure when they omitted asking her to identify the body. She was Jack's next of kin as his mother was declared dead from suicide after hearing the report that Jack had died. Neither Cameron nor George Frey, who took care of Jack's cremation, saw the actual dead body. Further, the newspaper accounts are filled with suspicious characters and accounts. The death of Virginia Parsons, Jack's mother, had equally bizarre circumstances surrounding it.

Parsons and Crowley were also good friends with Werner Von Braun. Von Braun was the head of Hitler’s rocket program, and after the war, came to the United States to work with NASA. (See Operation Paperclip)

This is Werner Von Braun with John F. Kennedy:



And to add another connection, George H.W. Bush’s Father was Prescott Bush. Prescott helped finance Hitler’s rise to power.
Here is Prescott Bush with Adolf Hitler:



Parsons, Crowley and Werner von Braun travelled to Tibet, Egypt, Iraq and Afghanistan in search of a “stargate” or portal which would allow them to enter the fourth dimension.

Now take a look at the Hebrew word “Nasa”:

נָשָׂא Nasa – To be lifted up, To lift oneself up, to carry

Isaiah 14:13 - For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

Isaiah 13:2-6 (LXX) On a mountain in the plain raise a signal; raise up your voice to them; do not fear; encourage them with your hand; open the gates, you rulers. It is I who instruct, and I lead them; (they have been consecrated for this task) and it is I who summon them. Giants come to fulfill my wrath, at the same time rejoicing and reviling. A voice of many nations on the mountains like that of many nations! A voice of kings and of nations gathered together! The Lord Sabaoth has commanded a heavily armed nation to come from a distant land, from the utmost foundation of heaven to destroy the whole world. Wail for the day of the Lord is near and a destruction will come from God!

Psalm 78:49 - He cast upon them the fierceness of his anger, wrath, and indignation, and trouble, by sending evil angels among them.

Isaiah 10:3 - And what will ye do in the day of visitation, and in the desolation [which] shall come from far? to whom will ye flee for help? and where will ye leave your glory?

NOW we’re beginning to see a clearer picture. The destruction of Christianity and the opening of portals to allow the entrance to unworldly entities has been a long term goal. This cannot be planned for such an extended period by humans alone.

Ephesians 6:12 - For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].

Why is Nasa and JPL so closely tied with those who tried to destroy the translation of the Christian bible, and those who killed millions of Jews, and are known to be occultists?

Daniel talks about the fourth kingdom that will attempt to rule the world:

Daniel 7:23 - Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

Who or what is this “Beast”?

Revelation 6:3 - And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.

In Revelation, the Angels are referred to as “beasts”. This beast (and his armies) are none other than the fallen angels!

Remember what happened in Genesis 6:4?
Genesis 6:4 - There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown.

This is why the earth was destroyed.

Genesis 6:9 - These [are] the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man [and] perfect in his generations, [and] Noah walked with God.

Noah was perfect in his generations (His bloodline had not been defiled by the earth visitors)

Luke 17:26 - And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

Jesus said the same thing that was happening in Noah’s day would be happening prior to His return.

Daniel 2:43 - And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

Again, Daniel confirms that “They” will mingle their seed with the seed of men. But there seems to be a problem. They shall not cleave one to another.

Revelation 16:2 - And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and [upon] them which worshipped his image.

Those that mingle with the beast (receive his mark) do not cleave. They begin to have noisome and grievous sores.
I believe the mark is somehow related to DNA from these “fallen ones”. We may be offered their DNA to "become gods" like them. (Just as he told Eve in Genesis 3:5)

Genesis 10:8 - And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth.

Nimrod BEGAN to be a “mighty one”. This word is “Gibborim” in the Hebrew and is a type of Nephilim. Somehow, Nimrod was not a Gibborim, but did start to change into one.

This is what many in the newage are preaching now….Our “change” is coming, or our “next step in evolution”, and many of them believe our “space brothers” are going to help us achieve this step.

What does God say about these visitors that will be coming?

Habakkuk 1:5,8 - Behold ye among the heathen, and regard, and wonder marvellously: for I will work a work in your days, which ye will not believe, though it be told you…… Their horses also are swifter than the leopards, and are more fierce than the evening wolves: and their horsemen shall spread themselves, and their horsemen shall come from far; they shall fly as the eagle that hasteth to eat.

Joel 2:1-9 Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for [it is] nigh at hand; A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, [even] to the years of many generations. A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land [is] as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them. The appearance of them [is] as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run. Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap, like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble, as a strong people set in battle array. Before their face the people shall be much pained: all faces shall gather blackness. They shall run like mighty men; they shall climb the wall like men of war; and they shall march every one on his ways, and they shall not break their ranks: Neither shall one thrust another; they shall walk every one in his path: and [when] they fall upon the sword, they shall not be wounded. They shall run to and fro in the city; they shall run upon the wall, they shall climb up upon the houses; they shall enter in at the windows like a thief.

Revelation 9:7-11 And the shapes of the locusts [were] like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads [were] as it were crowns like gold, and their faces [were] as the faces of men. And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as [the teeth] of lions. And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings [was] as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle. And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power [was] to hurt men five months. And they had a king over them, [which is] the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue [is] Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath [his] name Apollyon.

2 Thessalonians 2:11 - And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

Matthew 24:23,24 - Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here [is] Christ, or there; believe [it] not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

I’ve tried to tie all this in as briefly as possible and still make a concise point. For brevities sake, I won’t go into more detail at this time. Bottom line is this:

I believe a strong delusion is coming.
I believe an army of evil angels will fulfill the wrath of God.
I also believe there will be a leader to this army who actually claims to be God.

I believe there has been a bloodline since the days of Adam and of Noah that have ruled this planet without our best intentions in mind, but according to their own agenda.

I also believe that the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strongholds. This means pray up, seek Him, and endure to the end and you shall be saved!

Genesis 12:3 - And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.



1. October 30, 1991: The Perfect Storm – As President George H. W. Bush is opening the Madrid (Spain) Conference to consider “land for peace” and Israel’s Middle East role, the “perfect storm” develops in the North Atlantic, creating the largest waves ever recorded in that region. The storm travels 1000 miles from “east to west” instead of the normal “west to east” pattern and crashes into the New England Coast. Thirty-five foot waves pound Kennebunkport,Maine, the summer home of the Bush family.

2. August 23, 1992: Hurricane Andrew – When the Madrid Conference moves to Washington DC and the peace talks resume, Hurricane Andrew, the worst natural disaster ever to hit America, comes ashore and produces an estimated $30 billion in damage and leaving 180,000 homeless in Florida.

3. January 16, 1994: Northridge Earthquake—President Bill Clinton meets with Syria’s President Hafez el-Assad in Geneva. They talk about a peace agreement with Israel that includes giving up the Golan Heights. Within 24 hours, a powerful 6.9 earthquake rocks Southern California, This quake, centered in Northridge, becomes the second most destructive natural disaster to hit the United States, behind Hurricane Andrew.

4. January 21, 1998: Lewinsky Scandal – Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu meets with President Clinton at the White House and is coldly received. Clinton and Secretary of State Madeleine Albright refuse to have lunch with him. Shortly afterwards on that day, the Monica Lewinsky scandal breaks into the mass media and begins to occupy a major portion of Clinton’s time.

5. September 28, 1998: Hurricane George – As Secretary of State Albright works on the final details of an agreement in which Israel would give up 13 percent of the West Bank, Hurricane George slams into the United States Gulf Coast with 110 mph winds and gusts up to 175 mph. The hurricane hits the coast and is stalled there. On September 28, Clinton meets with Yasser Arafat and Netanyahu at the White House to finalize this land deal. Later, Arafat addresses the United Nations about declaring an independent Palestinian state by May 1999, as Hurricane George pounds the Gulf Coast, causing $1 billion in damage. At the exact time that Arafat departs the country, the storm begins to dissipate.

6. October 15-22, 1998: Texas Flooded – On October 15, 1998, Arafat and Netanyahu meet at the Wye River Plantation in Maryland. The talks are scheduled to last five days with the focus on Israel giving up the aforementioned 13 percent of the West Bank. The talks are extended and conclude on October 23. On October 17, awesome rains and tornadoes hit southern Texas. The San Antonio area is deluged with rain. The rain and flooding in Texas continue until October 22 and then subside. The floods ravage 25 percent of Texas and leave over one billion dollars in damage. On October 21, Clinton declares this section of Texas a major disaster area.

7. November 30, 1998: Market Capitalization Evaporates – Arafat comes to Washington again to meet with President Clinton to raise money for a Palestinian state with Jerusalem as the capitol. A total of 42 other nations were represented in Washington. All the nations agreed to give Arafat $3 billion in aid. Clinton promised $400 million, and the European nations $1.7 billion. On the same day, the Dow Jones average drops 216 points, and on December 1, the European Market had its third worst day in history. Hundreds of billions of market capitalization were wiped out in the U.S. and Europe.

8. December 12, 1998: Clinton is Impeached – As Clinton lands in the Palestinian-controlled section of Israel to discuss the “land for peace” process, the House of Representatives votes four articles of impeachment against him.

9. May 3, 1999: The Powerful Super Tornado – On the day that Yasser Arafat is scheduled to declare a Palestinian state with Jerusalem as the capital, the most powerful tornado storm system ever to hit the United States sweeps across Oklahoma and Kansas. The winds are clocked at 316 mph the fastest wind speed ever recorded. The declaration is postponed to December 1999 at the request of President Clinton, whose letter to Arafat encourages him in his “aspirations for his own land.” He also writes that the Palestinians have a right to “determine their own future on their own land” and that they deserve to “live free, today, tomorrow and forever.”

10. Week of October 11, 1999: Hurricane, Earthquake and Dow Collapse – As Jewish settlers in 15 West Bank settlements are evicted from covenant land, the Dow-Jones financial averages lose 5.7 percent in the worst week since October 1989. On October 15 the Dow lost 266 points, and a hurricane slammed into North Carolina. On the next morning, October 16, a magnitude 7.1 earthquake rocked the southwest in the fifth most powerful earthquake in 20th Century. The earthquake was centered in the California desert and did little damage but was felt in three states.

11. August 29, 2005. Hurricane Katrina. One week before Katrina made landfall, Israel carried out the evacuation of 9,500 residents from Gush Katif and four Samaria communities. Residents were forced from their homes by Israeli troops, some dragged away kicking and screaming and placed on buses that took them from the area. The Gaza evacuation had been supported and even urged upon Israel by the US. Estimated to have caused damages in excess of $100 billion Katrina was one of the most expensive natural disasters in US history

12. Sept. 1, 2010 US Pres. Obama welcomed PM Netanyahu (Israel) Pres. Abbas (Palestinians) Pres. Mubarak (Egypt) and King Abdullah (Jordan) to the White House, having invited them all to dinner on the eve of the first direct negotiations between the Israelis and Palestinians in nearly two years. As the talks began, Hurricane Earl (a category 3 storm) was headed for North Carolina where mandatory evacuation orders were issued in some coastal areas. Hurricane warnings were established all the way up the East coast to Cape Cod. Although many experts felt the timing was wrong, and in fact no tangible results came from the talks, over $40 million in damages were attributed to hurricane Earl.

13. May 19, 2011: Obama told an audience at the State Department that the borders of a “sovereign, non-militarized” Palestinian state “should be based on 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps.”
May 22, 2011: More than 50 tornadoes span from Oklahoma to Wisconsin. Fire chief Mitch Randles of Joplin, Missouri says “It cut the city in half”. 75 percent of Joplin was destroyed, leaving more than 125 dead. It is the single most devastating tornado in U.S. history.

Revelation 20:4,5 - And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This [is] the first resurrection.

When is the first resurrection? It comes at the end of the tribulation. You can't have a resurrection prior to the first resurrection. After the dead are raised, then we are changed. (For we shall not precede those who sleep)

Matthew 24:29-31 - Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Once again, after the tribulation, Jesus gathers His elect.

II Thessalonians 2:1-4 - Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and [by] our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

And yet again, this gathering does not take place until Antichrist is revealed and sits in the temple of God.
The coming of our Lord and our gathering (rapture) to Him is the same event.

1 Corinthians 15:51,52 - Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Corinthians says this "Mystery" is when we are all changed.

Revelation 10:7 - But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

Revelation says this "Mystery" takes place as the seventh angel begins to sound the trumpet.

What did the early church fathers teach in regard to the rapture?


Irenaeus (140-202AD) (Against Heresies V, XXVI, 1)
“And they shall lay Babylon waste, and burn her with fire, and shall give their kingdom to the beast, and put the church to flight. After that they shall be destroyed by the coming of our Lord."

Didache (50-100AD), Treatise on the Apostles by Early Church Fathers
"then shall appear the world-deceiver as Son of God, and shall do signs and wonders, and the earth shall be delivered into his hands...but they that endure in their faith shall be saved from under the curse itself. And then shall appear the signs of the truth; first, the sign of an out-spreading in heaven; then the sign of the sound of the trumpet; and the third, the resurrection of the dead; yet not of all, but as it is said: The Lord shall come and all His saints with Him. Then shall the world see the Lord coming upon the clouds of heaven."

Polycarp (69-165AD), Student of Apostle John
In addressing The Church about Revelation, “It will not be easy and it will be distinguished by trials, tribulations, and antagonisms…Stay faithful to the point of death and I will give you a crown of life.”

Ignatius (35-110AD), Student of Apostle John
“The promise [kept from the hour of trial]does not imply that the Philadelphian Church should be exempted from persecutions which should come on all other portions of the Church; that by any special privilege they should be excused from fiery trials through which others should have to pass…—to be kept in temptation, not to be exempted from temptation. The great catastrophies which come upon the earth are “temptations” to the world no less than to the Church.(Epistle to the church at Philadelphia)
He Wrote “A Dialogue of Comfort Against Tribulation” which was addressed to the churches.
In Magnes 1:2, “In him we will, if we patiently endure all the abuse of the ruler of this age and escape, reach God.”

Papias (70-155AD), Hearer of John/Friend of Polycarp
Wrote “Interpretations of the Sayings of The Lord” stated, “there will be a millennium after the resurrection from the dead, when the personal reign of Christ will be established on this earth.” [resurrection of the dead at the end of tribulation]

Justin Martyr (100-168AD),“The First Apology”-Chap.110
"Two advents of Christ have been announced: the one, in which He is set forth as suffering, inglorious, dishonored, and crucified; but the other, in which He shall come from heaven with glory, when the man of apostasy, who speaks strange things against the Most High, shall venture to do unlawful deeds on the earth against us the Christians”…together with the most righteous, and only spotless and sinless Christ, we are taken away out of the earth.”

Cyprian (200-258AD) “Nor let any one wonder that we are harassed with increasing afflictions, when the Lord before predicted that these things would happen in the last times, Nor let any one of you, beloved brethren, be so terrified by the fear of future persecution, or the coming of the threatening Antichrist, as not to be found armed for all things by the evangelical exhortations and precepts, and by the heavenly warnings. Antichrist is coming… but immediately the Lord follows to avenge our sufferings and our wounds. (Epistles of Cyprian, LIII, p.722)

Ephraim of Syrus (306-373 AD), Section X
“And when the three and a half years have been completed, the time of the Antichrist, through which he will have seduced the world, after the resurrection of the two prophets…the sign of the Son of Man…the Lord shall appear with great power…as the angelic trumpet precedes him…Arise, O sleeping ones, arise, meet Christ, because the hour of judgment has come!..Then Christ has come and the enemy thrown into confusion…And he will be bound and shall be plunged into the abyss.”

Cyril of Jerusalem (315-386 AD) Lecture XV
Hatred of the brethren makes room next for Antichrist; for the devil prepares beforehand the divisions among the people, that he who is to come may be acceptable to them. But God forbid that any of Christ’s servants here, or elsewhere, should run over to the enemy!..The Church now charges thee before the Living God; she declares to thee the things concerning Antichrist before they arrive. Whether they will happen in thy time we know not, or whether they will happen after thee we know not; but it is well that, knowing these things, thou shouldest make thyself secure beforehand”.

What did Christ teach regarding the Rapture?

Luke 21:8 - And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many will come in my name saying that I am Messiah, and that the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them!

Scripture teaches that there are false prophets in the church and they may speak the truth in many areas. They may be completely sincere ministers and teachers, but they still mislead. There is however a very specific warning that Christ focuses on here. Those who are going to be misleading the church in the end times will proclaim that Jesus is the Messiah and that the time (of His return) draweth near. The "time draweth near" is referring to his promised return for them, just as it does in Matthew 24.

The words for "Draweth near" in the Greek (sunelauno eggidzo) means to be near at hand, and paints the picture that the time of His return is intently imminent, or that it could happen at any moment. Jesus warned His followers, when those who claim to be speaking in the name of Jesus say that his return is imminent, (could happen at any moment) do not follow them.

There are prerequisites to His return, as He proceeds to clarify. He said very boldly that when teachers in the church at the end of the age say that the return of Christ is imminent, do not go after them; Do not follow their teachings. He then tells them that many things will happen that will terrify most people, but that even then, the end is not imminent. He goes on to describe the days of Satan's vengeance that will cause Christ’s followers to be persecuted and killed. He speaks further of the signs in the sun, moon, and stars; The shaking of the powers of the heavens, and in verse 27 He says that after the powers of the heaven are shaken, THEN they will see Him coming in power and great glory.

This “any moment rapture” teaching will cause so-called believers to hate each other and betray each other to the death.

Matthew 24:10 - And then shall many be offended and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

WHY? What terrible traps have been laid for the Christian church?

Matthew 24:24 - For there shall arise false Messiahs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. BEHOLD, I HAVE TOLD YOU BEFORE.

Christ has told us beforehand - He has forewarned us -

Matthew 24:26 - If they shall say unto you, behold! He is in the secret chambers; (tameion) Believe it not!

What is "Tameion"?

Matthew 6:5-6 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Veryily I say unto you, They have their reward. But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, (tameion) and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret, and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

Tameion shows us that which is done deliberately in secret so as not to be seen openly. It is an intentional secret for the purpose of concealing the activity from those who could see if it were done openly.

Tameion can be translated as closet, storehouse, storeroom, inner chamber, or any place that can obscure the actions of one from being observed. Jesus is not saying that false prophets will be saying that He can be found behind a sack of flour or behind your favorite suit in the closet; The false teaching is that He will return to gather us in a secret rapture, unseen by the world.

Luke 12:2,3 - For there is nothing covered that shall not be revealed; neither hid that shall not be known. Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets (tameion) shall be proclaimed upon the housetops.

If false prophets (who may be honest sincere Christians) say "Look, he will return at any time to gather his church in secret", Do not believe it! Christ has forewarned us.

Matthew 24:3 - Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and the end of the age? and Jesus answered "Take heed that no man deceive you!"

Jeremiah 14:14,15 - Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart. Therefore thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that prophesy in my name, and I sent them not, yet they say, Sword and famine shall not be in this land; By sword and famine shall those prophets be consumed.


Common Arguments:

There are some "cute-sie" little statements in the pre-trib camp such as "Jesus wouldn't beat up his bride".

While it sounds like a nice condemning argument, it has nothing to do with scripture. Post trib believers never said anything about Christ beating up His bride.

When the plagues of Egypt hit, God's people were not affected.


1 - First Thessalonians 5:9 says we are not appointed to wrath.

According to scripture, when is the wrath?
Revelation 11:18 - The nations were angry; and your wrath has come. The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your saints and those who reverence your name, both small and great- and for destroying those who destroy the earth.

In Revelation 6:10,11 at the 5th seal, the martyrs in Heaven ask God when He will judge those on the earth. The Lord responds that they must wait a little while longer.
The wrath of God is also referred to as “The Day of The Lord”.

Acts 2:20 - The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come:

Rev 6:12,17 - And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood….For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

According to scripture (Revelation 12:12), the mid-point of the final seven years begins the wrath of Satan. (Not the wrath of God)

2 - The Rapture and second coming are two different events.

Acts 3:20,21 - Then wonderful times of refreshment will come from the presence of the Lord, and he will send Jesus your Messiah to you again. For he must remain in heaven until the time for the final restoration of all things, as God promised long ago through his prophets.

Hebrews 9:28 - So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
Psalm 110:1 - The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. (Matt. 22:44, Mark 12:36, Luke 20:42, Acts 2:34, Hebrews 1:13)

3 - The tribulation is for unbelievers including Jews, not Christians.

Romans 10:12 - For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

Ephesians 2:14 - For Christ himself has made peace between us Jews and you Gentiles by making us all one people.

Galatians 3:28 - There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Mark 13:37 - And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.

Romans 11:7 - What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded

4 - Doesn’t Revelation 19:14 say that we return with Christ on horses to battle with Him?

Matthew 13:41 - The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

II Thessalonians 1:7,8 - And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Mark 8:38 - Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.

5- What about imminence?

The disciples were told to tarry in Jerusalem until Holy Spirit came. They did not expect an “any moment rapture”; They expected Holy Spirit to come. Jesus appeared to Paul and told him that he would preach in Rome. Did Paul expect to preach in Rome, or did he expect to be raptured any minute now? Jesus told Peter that he would die an old man. Did Peter expect to die of old age like Jesus said, or be raptured? Jesus said the church in Smyrna would suffer persecution ten days. From the time Christ ascended until the end of the first century, no one expected a rapture.

6 - The Church isn’t mentioned after Revelation 4 because it was raptured.

If we use the same argument, we would have to exclude Mark, Luke, John, Second Peter, First and Second John, and Jude as well, because the "church" isn't mentioned at all in those books.

Isa 24:18 And it shall come to pass, [that] he who fleeth from the noise of the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the snare: for the windows from on high are open, and the foundations of the earth do shake.

Jer 25:31 A noise shall come [even] to the ends of the earth; for the LORD hath a controversy with the nations, he will plead with all flesh; he will give them [that are] wicked to the sword, saith the LORD.

2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Rev 6:1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.




See also here:
Believers Journey

Excerpts from "The Vision" by David Wilkerson (1974)

Not only is the American dollar headed for deep trouble but so are all other world currencies. I see total economic confusion striking Europe first and then affecting Japan, the United States, Canada and all other nations shortly thereafter.

It is not really a depression I see coming- but a recession of such magnitude that it will affect the lifestyle of nearly every wage earner in America and around the world. Countries that now control huge amount of Western currency are going to be in a very deep trouble also. Arab countries will especially be hurt.
I believe we are going to witness the bankruptcies of some of this nation’s major and most popular corporations. I see tremendous difficulty arising for credit corporations. There are going to be many people unable to pay off their heavy obligations to major credit card companies causing near-chaos.

Thousand of small businesses will also be forced into bankruptcies. Three and possibly four of the major religious denominations will be forced to operate with skeleton organization due to a lack of funds. More than a few churches are going to go bankrupt and a number of independent missionary societies and church organizations are going to have to pull back. All but a few of the radio and television ministries will have to be abandoned.

The President of the United States will make one and possibly two, national radio and TV appearances to reassure the nation that all is well and that the best of economic times is just ahead. It will not work. People will distrust these statements ad their fears will lead to revolution at the polls.

The auto industry is going to be hurt badly. Makers of recreational vehicles are going to get hit very hard. Appliance inventories will pile up and sales will fall off drastically.
Unions will face new pressures not to strike. No longer will workers be able to afford to be out of work for even one week. The government is going to take a hard line against strikes and striking union members will no longer be able to get food stamps and other benefits once allowed.
There will develop a call for revamping all world monetary systems into one uniform system. And even though the dollar will appear to be gaining strength just before the coming major recession, a new crisis will develop that will shake the entire financial world. It will be years before faith in the American dollar will be restored.

The United States is going to experience in the not-too-distant future the most tragic earthquakes in its history. One day soon this nation will be reeling under the impact of the biggest news story of modern times. It will be coverage of the biggest most disastrous earthquake in history.

It will cause widespread panic and fear, Without a doubt, it will become one of the most completely reported earthquake ever. Television networks will suspend all programming and carry all day coverage.

Another earthquake , possibly in Japan may precede the one that I see coming here. There is not the slightest doubt in my mind about this forthcoming massive earthquake in our continent.

I am not at all convinced that this earthquake will take place in California. In fact, I believe it is going to take place where it is least expected. This terrible earthquake may happen in an area that not known as an earthquake belt. It will be so high on the Richter scale that it will trigger two other major earthquakes.


See also an update from March 2009:
http://davidwilkersontoday.blogspot.com/2009/03/urgent-message.html


Here it is from David Wilkerson himself: