Have you ever been banned from the "Rapture Ready" forum?
Have your posts been edited or deleted?
Have you ever received warning for posting scripture?
Were you blocked from posting, then taunted by the mods?
Or perhaps you're one of the many that received a "friend request" on facebook from a stranger, and later found out it was a rr-bb mod in disguise, who was just there to see what kind of personal information they could dig up.
Yes, they love to trace IP addresses, track down email addresses and any accounts that may be associated with them. They will look up your posting habits on other forums and blogs.
rr-bb is more of an anti-christian, data mining website than it is a legitimate forum. And why is that?
Feel free to leave your comments & stories here.
Stop Sinning
23 hours ago
202 responses to "banned from rapture ready?"
Don't get me going about them. I HATE THAT SITE!!!
Rapture Ready is a CULT!
There are likely thousands of Christians who have been banned, or had their study of the bible discouraged by, the Rapture Ready site. I have been banned three times, once only for referring to Ahmadinajad as Imadinnerjacket ; )
It bothers me to say it, but Rapture Ready (RR) is NOT a Christian site. It's a CULT like the Roman Catholic Church. Todd and Terry are its high leaders (Co-Popes) and the RR Moderators are the Bishops and Cardinals who enforce the RR doctrine of "Fuzzy Faith".
Fuzzy Faith entails perpetuating vacuous commentary about the scriptures. Any visitor to the RR site will soon discover there is an alarming absence of thoughtful analysis and discussion of scripture in the postings there. It is not a site for Christian study. Most of the threads are populated with "Amen!", "me too", "me three", and other juvenile comments about only the most generic of topics.
The mission of Rapture Ready's Fuzzy Faith doctrine is to undermine the spirit and intent of Acts 17:11 and Proverbs 25:2. If these verses inspire you to study and analyze scripture and propose theories for discussion, don't waste your time trying to have a discussion about them on the RR site because you will be banned.
Like the Roman Catholic Church, RR has its own agenda. What many don't know is that the moderators there routinely read all the private messages from members and conspire against those whose comments they disagree with. Sometimes you will see several moderators "swarm" a discussion thread in order to discredit a poster, even to the extent of using circular reasoning, or editing what a poster has posted.
The Rapture Ready site wants to keep Christians in the dark. Consider that discussions about good and Godly Christians like JR Church, Gary Stearman, Mark Biltz, Steve Hadley and many others are FORBIDDEN at Rapture Ready, and that should tell you all you need to know about that site.
God Bless
Armageddon Thru To You
And another thing, see now I can't stop ; )
Don't assume that because the Rapture Ready site is the most popular rapture site on the internet, they must be OK because many of our most popular Churches are either dead asleep or apostate, and therefore not OK either.
ATTY nailed it! I too have had similar experiences and was "banned" back in August soon after starting my blog. Ridiculous indeed!
Jeff (JRed)
I am a Christian, but these people are like a cult. They think anyone who has the smallest difference in theology to them is headed to hell! It's sad, really.
I posted there up until 2 years ago when I was sick of getting warnings from mods. One of my friends there left being a mod because there was so strange divisiveness. She stood for the Word and used scripture – in the end they did not like her.
Please do not base your opinion of Christians, or Christianity by what you’ll see on RaptureReady.com
They are, for the most part, a bunch of legalistic, self-righteous, mean-spirited jerks who run off at the mouth about Jesus and how we are to follow Him, yet fail to do that themselves in their… “administration”.
A few weeks ago I was following a thread at a popular website: “Raptureready.com” as it related to the Islamic Antichrist theme…Several of the “moderators” were doing their best to discredit the Islamic paradigm while pushing the “brilliant” article recently penned by David Regan. I posted a few comments suggesting that much of the Church is in danger of missing the boat because of the predominant teachings, and also, perhaps, because of the widespread belief that they “will not be here” to witness the end times…Needless to say, I was immediately banned from posting on that website…for life…Out of curiosity I checked back a few days later and found that the entire thread, which contained some links and references that very politely challenged the pre-trib/European Antichrist, or “Left Behind” view, had been deleted.
Oh my goodness T.W., I posted in that same thread on Rapture Ready and was flabbergasted to see that it had been deleted, it was so ridiculous! Those who were posting their disgreement with the Reagan article were very polite and not at all contentous, yet they had to delete the thread. Just goes to show how very, very closed minded they are about hearing any sort of challenge to their POV.
Let me tell you about what happened to me on their message board. I thought I would've enjoyed being a member. But the admins. are so intolerant.
I posted an article "What if America is the Babylon" in Rev. Well they apparently don't like that view, and because I posted such a theory, I was banned! How infantile is that?
There was also a thread posted by a man who was struggling with his faith. He said many of the people at his wife's Protestant church were judgment, because he did not share exactly the same beliefs as them, and it was discouraging to him. I understood what this man was going through, but I could never voice my opinion, because that man was banned as well. I feel this is not acting as Christ would have Christians act at all! How is that showing the love of Christ?
Also I did try to make a second account to get back in. I made it at the library, and somehow they knew it was me trying to get back in. How could they have known that? How could they have known that unless they were abusing their abilities as mods. Who knows how much info they are able to look up on their members. What an abuse of power.
If you don't believe exactly as that admin team believes your post are deleted and you are removed from ever posting in that site. You are not alone my friend, many have been cast out of that site.
I went on this site once and noticed it was very one-sided. You are not allowed to voice an opinion that doesn’t harmonize with theirs. These people do not seek the truth, just validation. I never went back to this site.
I have watched them for a long time and can see that they have a consistent pattern of promoting ungodly values . They are so intent on this mission that they ridicule, intimidate, and ban anyone who posts documentation to try to counteract their anti-Christian agenda.
No Public I.P's: Administrators Use Aliases To Control The Tone of the Forums
This forum does not use IP's to identify posters so that any reader can verify that each user name is indeed connected to one individual poster. The practice of not displaying IP's enables the administrators to use several aliases so as to gain the appearance of an ungodly liberal majority where none exists in actuality. Their use of aliases serves to convince the readers of their forum that it is perfectly normal for a Christian to live his life conforming to the world and yielding to the lusts of the flesh. After all, the saints of God are saved by grace so holy living is irrelevant, right?
The administrators do use IP's privately to identify posters for their own purposes, such as disallowing banned posters to come back in and read their secret forums which are closed to the public.
They use IP's for their own advantage of having several aliases and to prevent those who would like to know what is going on from being able to register again. If what they are promoting in their private end time forums is God's work, why hide it from the public? People don't cover with darkness what is of God. Satan works under the cover of darkness and in secrecy, not God.
The use of aliases enables the administrators to insult and intimidate into silence the God-fearing, real Bible-believing posters without looking like they are the ones who are doing it. It is a disgustingly manipulative ploy, and very effective. What they have not yet done is change their style of writing to totally cover this up. If you watch carefully you will see how the style of a particularly rude poster (with a very masculine-sounding user name) matches the writing style of a certain administrator. Now that you know about this, don't fall for it any longer.
This is not a Christian message board run by Christian administrators, but is actually a message board run by Satan's followers who pose as Christians. They have become so arrogant that some do not even bother to try to appear authentic anymore. Some of the posters, however, are Christians and do not know what is going on exactly, but are troubled and are becoming spiritually subverted by the postings designed to erode their faith and desensitize them to the godly values taught in the Word of God. Also, many of the posters are also satanists and back up and provide a vocal majority to the ungodly and anti-Christian attitudes and agendas promoted on the forum. Some of these posters are brazen enough to mark themselves with satanic avatars and user names. Those who refrain from being this blatant surely mark themselves with the content of their posts.
Manipulation Through the "Private Messenger" System
People who post to this forum need to understand that their private message posts (PMs) are not necessarily private. Anything they write in their PMs could be read by the administrators and used against them. For example, if a poster complained about the ungodly attitude of an administrator to a fellow "poster" in a PM, he could be unknowingly writing that note to the alias of the administrator he complained about, or one of their friends. That person may find himself baited into some kind of confrontation or he may reveal his feelings of concern about the bias of the administrators, and be banned before he knows what happened to him.
I've heard some stories about what some of the moderators have done there, how they've treated some people so unfairly, etc. I've was singled out for a while and had a moderator friend (who also lived near me at the time) who would let me know what they were up to and when they were "on to me" for something. They definitely need prayer and hopefully their ungodly behavior will be fully exposed so believers can be aware of their true intents.
Todd Strandberg's Rapture Ready Ready Message Board, which consistently conditions Christians to partake of sin, has an agenda to make it certain that Christians are not rapture ready. Their stated mission is the opposite of their actual purpose as evidenced by their message board content. Much worldly and anti-Christian content is promoted, backed or ignored by the administration. Either way, the kingdom of God is being undermined, rather than advanced through the individuals who run this message board.
Relativism is the theme of the Rapture Ready Message Board: how a Christian feels while he is participating in behavior that violates biblical principles determines whether it is right or wrong. If he feels comfortable gambling, then he may gamble. If he feels comfortable drinking, then he may drink, if he feels comfortable playing occult computer games or typically sinful movies then he may indulge, etc. As long as things don't get out of hand, conforming to the world is promoted as being harmless as well as enjoyable. This is called giving place to the devil, and the Rapture Ready administrators and backers offer plenty of rationalizations to "help" the Christian justify veering off and staying off the narrow way that leads to life.
1 Corinthians 4:5
Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.
By what authority do you all stand in judgment of your fellow Christians on Rapture Ready, people that you know only by a handful of posts? Are you so sure you know their hearts? Ask yourself if your posts here are a good Christian witness. You sound no different than the atheists.
Anon - In response to your comment/question:
This post went up less than 24 hours ago without any judgment whatsoever. I have since edited the post since action has been taken by the RR Mods.
By what authority do we stand in judgment?
In actuality, it is not judgment.
However, John 7:24 says "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment"
So there is a form of judgment we are to make. Have you ever been to court? Agree with it or not, there is a man behind the bench and a jury that WILL judge you if you ever stand before them.
Matthew 7:20 "Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them"
I assure you, I am not judging most of the members of that forum. I'm sure most are oblivious to what goes on behind the scenes. This has absolutely nothing to do with most of the membership there.
Are the posts here a good Christian witness?
Absolutely.
Titus 1:10,11,16 - For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision: Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake. They profess that they know God; but in works they deny [him], being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
Matthew 7:15 - Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Ephesians 4:14 - That we [henceforth] be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, [and] cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
II Timothy 3:13 - But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
Paul called out Demas, Hymaneus, Alexander, and Philetus in his writings ((1 Timothy 1:18-20; 2 Timothy 2:15-18, 4:10,15). Similarly, John warned his readers about Diotrephes. Peter likewise spoke of those who followed the way of Baalam (2 Peter 2:15).
They were not ashamed to stick up for the gospel of Jesus Christ, and call out those who erred.
i am a christian and i have this to be one of the most hypocritical christian message boards out there...i understand from a christian view point that certain rules need to be instilled on the board but that board has no freedom of speech whatsoever.
I have been there, and they are very mislead. I am a christian, and only see that their "denomination" is a twisted one. Of course, the ONE important truth is certainly there, but MANY other biblical truths are twisted.
Unfortunately there are brainwashed christians, and they provide a burden to other christians in a unique way.
To the believers at Rapture Ready...
Do Not Grieve the Holy Spirit
You people need to read the following scriptures and take a look at yourself in the mirror.
Mat 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
Mat 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Mat 7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Mat 7:4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam [is] in thine own eye?
Mat 7:5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
Mat 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
Dear Anonymous,
This is the second negative comment I've had about this post. Both from RR mods.
These are the same tactics used on RR. Multiple mods, multiple IP's, all used to show support for yourselves.
Let's take a look at the scripture you've provided.
Matthew 7:2 says the standard you use to judge others, will be the same standard used to judge you.
However, I Corinthians 11:31 says - For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.
I will be the first to admit that I don't have it all figured out, and I'm not always right. (My wife would be the second to tell you the same) :)
But look at Matthew 7:5 and see who it is he is addressing. It is the hypocrite. Not the true followers of Christ, but the hypocrites.
Those who put on a facade and are actually wolves in sheeps clothing.
John 7:24 has already told us that we are to judge righteous judgment.
I Corinthians 6 goes on to tell us....No, Commands us to judge among one another.
Isaiah 1:18 says "Come, let us REASON together".
At RR, there is no reasoning. It is "My way or the Highway". If the hierarchy are in error, there is no room for correction.
Hebrews 10:24,25 - And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some [is]; but exhorting [one another]: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
It plainly says we should consider one another. I will take what you have to say into consideration, you can take what I have to say into consideration, and we can provoke one another to love.
This isn't done very often today. That is why we have 3600 Christian 'Sects'.
You can't drive five miles in America without seeing a "church" building. Where there is light, no darkness can dwell.
But the cities across America are covered in darkness. Obviously there is no light. I think it is time we re-examined ourselves and what it is we teach and stand for.
The founder of the Rapture Ready site must be blind not to see what's going on over there ; )
I was banned for being a troll. However, I never actually trolled. I did ask some questions which evidently bruised their theological ideas. For example, one poster was convinced the rapture would happen within a generation of Israel becoming a nation. I pointed out by their reckoning the the rapture should happen by 2028. I asked out it would change their viewpoints if this did not happen. BAM. Next time I tried to log on it said I was banned for being a troll. I did not try and provoke anyone or any other activitiy defined as trolling. Their site, their rules, but they act like fools.
Wounded jealousy is acid on the healing balm of the Holy Spirit.
I read their rules and they state their site is for pretrib believers only.
If you don't like that go post somewhere else.
The internet is big enough for cry babies.......
1 Corinthians 4:5
Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come....
I was banned for after seeing a thread about the website fstdt.com, which posts the most outrageous things posted on various fundamentalist websites. Someone referred to it as a "hate site".
My post consisted of asking "Why do you call it a hate site?"
My account was banned AND so was my I.P. Address!
hey,didja guys know about the secret forums of rapture ready? They're even hidden to members.
http://www.rr-bb.com/forumdisplay.php?f=19 is the tinfoil shed.
the forums
http://www.rr-bb.com/forumdisplay.php?f=10
http://www.rr-bb.com/forumdisplay.php?f=47
http://www.rr-bb.com/forumdisplay.php?f=49
http://www.rr-bb.com/forumdisplay.php?f=50
http://www.rr-bb.com/forumdisplay.php?f=66
http://www.rr-bb.com/forumdisplay.php?f=75
http://www.rr-bb.com/forumdisplay.php?f=79
can only be seen by mods.
MAY GOD FORGIVE YOU ALL, SPEAK OF GREIVING THE HOLY SPIRIT! I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT 90% OF THESE POSTS ARE LIES.
Thank you Lebanon Kentucky for your anonymous post accusing so many of lying and claiming as fact that 90% of them are false.
It does not grieve Holy Spirit to expose the truth.
ohhh i hate that site, i always used to go with a holy fire burning inside of me and then come away with it been drenched :( i feel so discouraged yet i still try to get on? they banned me for telling them about a dream i had on the end times and it was removed and then banned me for life, i somehow got back on the site and they said to me "how do we know you have had a change of heart" lol ? its a joke its not christian like at all they constantly say people need praying for but really its them who need praying for there very narrow minded and i dont think they will be reconise when jesus comes? can you image if jesus posted something on that site, they would ban it instantly...
Of late, almost every post that I have been posting there has been cut short or closed. Recently, I got a private message warning from one of the moderators stating that I was posting too much about troubles that I have been having at home with my family and that I should stop posting such things.
Another time I had posted a thread asking if anybody heard of a certain book that I was reading about conversions during near death experiences (it wasn't that I was promoting that idea, I was just curious as to what people thought) and they immediately deleted my post.
It's gottento the point where I have nothing that I could legally talk about on that site so I don't go there anymore.
Most interesting! Readers would undoubtedly enjoy Googling "Open Letter to Todd Strandberg," "The Rapture Index (Mad Theology)," "X-Raying Margaret," "America's Pretrib Rapture Traffickers," and "Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty."
I've had issues on there. They banned me from a certain section. No warning. So, I try to get answers and they are very vague with me. Because I questioned something the mod said, he said he now saw why I was banned. I told him the way they treat people on there is not the way Jesus says to treat people. They are sitting as judge and then don't tell why they ban people. Jesus says you are to try to work it out. Right? He told me they don't have time to mess with people that can't follow the rules. He told me I would remain banned from that section and not to message him again or I would have to take a vacation from the site. Doesn't sound like a Christian response to me. I'm looking for a good pre-trib discussion board.
I was an active member until this past Sunday when I asked questions they felt were inappropriate (meanings of some of the terms that they have listed in the rules that you cant break!) I felt this was a stupid reason to ban someone (at that point i could still see the forums, it just had a message stating i couldn't post until after May 2010.) so I emailed Todd. Explained what had happened. My daughter also was a member there, altho she didn't post (they never made it so she could and she is 19). Today when she tried to log in, a message came back and said that our IP address was banned.
All this for trying to get a definition of their rules. lol
I promptly sent Todd another email that stated I felt that we had been judged (without a trial) and the last thing I knew Matthew 7:1 stated "Judge not, lest ye be judged". I also told him I thought it was wrong to ban someone for trying to learn.
I don't find their reactions very Christian at all. What an awful way to run a Christian forum.
I, too, have been banned by Rapture Ready. I wish I had seen your website prior to posting anything. It is clear to me now that these people are anti-Christian. As a new member, and under your screen name it identifies you as a "new member," if you post a comment, they totally ignore you. They skip right over what you have to say and quote from a person above you like you weren't even there. The same people post over and over and over again; and if they have nothing of substance to contribute to the original post, they put a smiley face.
If you are a new member and you post something that disagrees with their posting, then they descend on you like a bunch of flies. I posted a comment and within an hour someone said she checked the Bible with regard to my posting and she could find no scripture in agreement with my posting. Within one hour she had re-read the whole Bible to dispute me?
The people on Rapture Ready, under the umbrella of the Rapture, are teaching Christians to do nothing while the one-world religion is being set up, while Jesus Christ and Christianity are under attack all over the world. They are teaching Christians to hide in the trenches until we are rescued by Jesus. That is not what we are supposed to be doing. Jesus said, "Pick up your cross and follow me." We need to be witnessing to others in these last days before the Tribulation starts.
They don't even know basic scripture. They are posting comments now with regard to the earthquakes in California saying, "Do you think the Big One will be soon." The Big One doesn't come until sometime during the Tribulation. It is the sixth seal in Revelation. They are promoting false gospel.
Rapture Ready also says that you cannot post anything that the mods decide is conspiracy theory. That is a catchall phrase being used now so as not to convey the truth to the public.
I joined the RR banned hall of fame for saying that some people are using bits of Scripture to develop whole theologies, and that they would prefer someone else to do their Bible reading and praying for them. Then before I could get the whole issue prayed out and thought out, I committed the unforgivable offence of posting twice without posting a public apology for unintentionally offending people who attacked me without asking what I was getting at. I was told i could return after composing a suitable public apology, but with no way to contact the Mods, this is impossible.
I notice people saying they subtly promote sin; thats an interesting take. They have a zombie fan there, that was a curious hobby for a Christian...
There are a lot of good people at RR; unfortunately they aren't in charge. Is it appropriate for a Christian to call himself "Buzzardhut"? That is an odd witness. Its too bad about RR; many of the members are really great people, but overall, the forum witness is very mixed, and a big turnoff for atheists and others who might have wanted to meet Jesus Christ. I also found the statement about "posting too much about troubles with home and family" to be very disturbing. Its a shame about RR, there could have been a lot of good done there. Reading the criticisms, some of which I respect, some of which I don't, I guess I'm not sorry I left. But I sure wish I would have known my PM's weren't private. That is extremely disturbing! I'll be much more careful online for the rest of my life, for sure!! Very valuable heads-up there, thank you Stephen1, that was a valuable warning!
I too have been banned from RR.. I believe that there are many good people there, but they are also many many zombies there.. Actually I've been banned twice.. This last time I never posted anything.. Then yesterday when I tried to log on I was told that my IP address was banned.. They really amuse me.. The members constantly sit around watching the latest news headlines and connecting it to the end times.. They make comments like "Got my popcorn watching the show"
Another complaint I have about the Rapture Ready site (sorry, I’m going into a rant here) is the way they treat non-Christians. If you post in some forum saying you’re not a Christian, you’ll get put on Apologetics Only if you’re lucky, and banned if you’re not. I guess it’s understandable that they don’t want non-Christians posting in their non-Apologetics forums, so I won’t complain about that. But one or more mods will typically subject the non-Christian to a harsh interrogation in the Apologetics forum. I guess they’re trying to make them convert by how uncomfortable they’re making them. Then the non-Christians can argue with the Christians, which is good. Unfortunately, if the non-Christians don’t convert after a certain period of time, or they ask questions that are too difficult to answer, the moderation team will start looking for “excuses” to ban the non-Christian. An example of what I mean is one time an atheist user was beating a mod in an argument. The mod said something about God that made Him look terrible (remember, this is the Rapture Ready conception of God). Then the atheist said something to the effect of “I wouldn’t want to worship God if he was really that terrible”. Then the mod said the atheist “broke the rules” because he “insulted God” and used that as an excuse to ban him. These people claim to be about showing people the way to Christ, yet they ban people who they don’t want to deal with? How is that showing them the way to Christ? Ridiculous.
Also, about the politics issue. I wasn’t exaggerating when I said earlier when they act like you have to be a conservative to be a Christian. They legitimately believe that. If you don’t hold their ultraconservative views, your salvation is called into question. I remember when one user disproved an outrageous hateful claim made about Obama and one user replied “Are you a Christian? All I see you doing is defending Obama and talking politics”. Another user followed up the previous user’s post with “I was wondering the same thing”. It’s absurd the way they think if you don’t believe all the nonsense they spew about Obama, you’re not following Jesus Christ. [sarcasm]We all know that Jesus had so much to say about making outrageous claims about Obama![/sarcasm]
Anyway, I’ve gone into too much a rant here. I didn’t expect to write this much. It’s always important to remember that we are in no position to judge someone else’s salvation. We don’t want to be guilty of the same thing we accuse them of. At the end of the day, whether or not they are saved or “true Christians” is between them and God, and I play no role in that decision, and I (despite my long rant) need to remember that. Instead of judging them ourselves, we should just trust that God knows what He’s doing with them. I plan to start praying for some of them, especially the ones I can’t stand the most, to remind me of this, and I’d advise some of you to do the same.
Sorry, I was the above commenter #37, and I referenced a previous part of my comment; I actually had more comments before that because my comment was too long so I had to break it up, but the rest of those comments didn't go through. Just to clear up confusion.
Also, I'm sorry I'm going to comment again, and looking over my previous comment I came across as angry, but I just need to vent. I was looking over some RR threads, and came across this comment: "Likewise, anyone who can vote liberal and defend its views while claiming to be a Christian, is a lukewarm." (http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?38561-Modern-Socialism-in-America/page26). See, it's comments like these that get my blood boiling. You can't vote liberal and be a strong Christian? Well then, explain why my college Bible study leader last year is liberal, and she's doing a missions trip thing in inner city L.A. now, and I think she plans to at some point spend most of her time in South America, teaching kids about both astronomy and Jesus (she's an astrophysicist). But I guess she's lukewarm because she votes liberal. I can't believe these people say things like that. I'm fairly conservative in my political views, but I fully recognize that there are GREAT Christians out there who are liberal. Who are they to judge someone by their political leanings?
Later in that thread, a user called the user defending Obama (free2believe) a "very disgusting troll". Words elude me. I am just so furious with the way he was treated. You should read it all. It starts on page 19. Just because he likes Obama means he has to get ripped and villainized by a bunch of users and mods, with no one there to support him, and told he is not a true Christian? Unbelievable.
Later on in the thread a user called SoundingTheAlarm actually points out how badly free2believe was treated, and says that God would not approve. I was quite happy to see somebody say this. So I will give Rapture Ready credit for that. Unfortunately, everybody either ignored it, or disagreed with it. In fact, SoundingTheAlarm had to say he wasn't trying to come across as holier-than-thou, when he was the only one in the thread other than free2believe who wasn't coming across as holier-than-thou, which I thought was pretty ironic.
That's one of the main problems with RR; they infuse political doctrine into their religion.
Another point about non-Christians - there is a stickied thread in the Apologetics forum called "Atheists in need of questions", with an evil-looking face next to it. Why do they have to put that evil face there? That's only going to make atheists feel less welcome there and condemned.
You probably wouldn't know it from my comments here, but I rarely get angry, and I'm generally a quiet person without much to say. Seeing Rapture Ready just makes me furious though! The way they turn non-Christians away from Christ and condemn and treat like dirt fellow brothers and sisters in Christ who don't line up with their exact theology or political views infuriates me!
I like what Anonymous commenter #18 said, "Unfortunately there are brainwashed christians, and they provide a burden to other christians in a unique way." I feel like these people are a unique burden to me, because while they make me angry and make me want to correct them, I know that I should not have a judgmental attitude toward them, lest I show myself to be a hypocrite. Also, I need to forgive them, as Jesus commanded me to do, and as you can probably tell, I am finding that very difficult to do. But, something needs to be said, so that they stop turning people away from Christ, including those who are their own brothers and sisters in Christ. It's really sad. Many of the people on that site probably mean well, but what they are doing is only having negative effects.
Time to tell the truth. This, BTW is Meg, and this time, I got banned for telling a Mod he jumped to a mistaken conclusion. They did actually accept me back, but I was never forgiven for offending them the first time, so I offended them on purpose the second time. The Rapture Ready Mods operate in the shadows, demonstrating serious habits of either cult leaders or leaders of a totalitarian regime. There is no accountability in forum moderation at all. I have recently learned a new phrase, "Online Persona", or at least a new application of the idea. Everything that has been said about the RR Mods having multiple identities and questionable agendas has been demonstrated in my own experience to be very likely true.
It has been said that satan doesn't care if you read Scripture as long as you don't obey it. So some RR Mods post Scripture, some even batter self proclaimed atheists with Scripture, but having evidence of a working knowledge of Scripture is not a requirement for forum moderators who sit in judgement over people who study the Word and have honest questions.
This really is a shame. There are people out there with very deep questions, who were hoping for not simply answers, so much as a chance to discuss how to break through to the truth about how Christianity works and why, and the egotistical personnas of the RR Mods are killing the hopes for effective ministry RR was intended for in favor of satisfying a lust for attention and false authority. I do concur that it is entirely possible that RR has been hijacked, at best, since RR is not exactly fake, just poorly run by people with more to hide than any Christian should. At least half the moderator team shows more worldly behavior than Christian behavior, including outright lying, misrepresentation of personal details and unforgiveness
Hi Meg! Anonymous #37 and 38 here! I was browsing the RR forums and noticed that you had gotten banned, which was a complete shock to me since you had so many posts. I was curious as to what got you banned, but unfortunately I couldn't look up your user info, since my accounts were banned. I think you really hit the nail on the head about the mods showing worldly behavior than Christian behavior, especially their unforgiveness. I apologized for breaking the rules with my first account, and asked for forgiveness, and I never received any response other than the banhammer. The last account I made, I made for the sole purpose of trolling, and then after a while I felt really convicted by the Holy Spirit and owned up to it in front of everybody and asked for their forgiveness. Still no response other than banning me. That's one of the thing that worries me the most about these people. Jesus says you won't be forgiven if you don't forgive others (Matthew 6:15). They didn't seem to forgive me even after a sincere apology (they had to know that it was sincere, because I had nothing to gain by blowing my cover the way I did). I'm not upset that I was banned, but they refuse to reconcile with their brothers and sisters in Christ, which really worries me.
I'm very sorry that you were banned. It must really hurt to have been an active member of the forum for so long and then suddenly be cut off without warning. I'll pray that God uses this ban for your good somehow. God can take any bad situation and make it good!
I haven't been banned yet but, have made the decision to leave RR of my own free will and conviction by the Holy Spirit. I just want to say how sorry I am for each of you who have experienced such un-Christlike treatment from the RR mods and admins. They definitely have a holier-than-thou attitude and one of the members (initials HB) wink...wink... is absolutely laughable. I've thought for sometime that "she" is an alias of one of the mods.
Its interesting reading many of the writings here. I get the overwhelming sense many are just hurt, because you did wrong and are lashing out.
I've been banned from two forums. I would never think to drag them down in public, but was in full peace that if those forums were doing the Lords work, they will survive. They did not. I have no hard feelings for the leaders of those boards, I only hope the best and that the Lord is pleased with them to do His work. Whether that happens for them, I'll may never know. I trust God will do what He wills.
If RR is doing the Lords work, it will survive, or not. It is a large board, so praying for them to succeed in spreading the truth of Jesus Christ, should be your attitude.
To post #42...
Judge much? You are certainly reading between the lines with that response not to even mention the fact that you are assigning blame to people you don't know a thing about. Sounds like you could benefit from reading the following scripture:
Matthew 23:26
Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.
As far as ministries doing the Lord's work or not, one only need take a leisurely drive down any street and you will find many doing the so called Lord's work and surviving quite well. The Bible is clear that the Lord will take care of these imposters in His timing:
Parable of the Wheat and Weeds
24 Here is another story Jesus told: “The Kingdom of Heaven is like a farmer who planted good seed in his field. 25 But that night as the workers slept, his enemy came and planted weeds among the wheat, then slipped away. 26 When the crop began to grow and produce grain, the weeds also grew.
27 “The farmer’s workers went to him and said, ‘Sir, the field where you planted that good seed is full of weeds! Where did they come from?’
28 “‘An enemy has done this!’ the farmer exclaimed.
“‘Should we pull out the weeds?’ they asked.
29 “‘No,’ he replied, ‘you’ll uproot the wheat if you do.
30 Let both grow together until the harvest. Then I will tell the harvesters to sort out the weeds, tie them into bundles, and burn them, and to put the wheat in the barn.’”
I pray that you will reconsider your wrongful judging of the ones who've posted here.
I'll have to step in at this point to make it clear.
I am not hurt, nor am I lashing out.
I was banned from RR the first time in the late 90's. I joined a few more times after that, but it was only because I was looking for a place online where I could fellowship.
No, RR is not a Christian forum.
For years, I watched truth posted by well meaning individuals, only to be ridiculed and deleted by the mods. Certain posts would be deleted to make certain ones look like the bad guys.
When honest questions or concerns came up, all of a sudden the entire thread would turn to smiley faces and the ball game. You could not hold a serious conversation and keep the thread on topic.
As I mentioned before, the site is ran like a gestapo camp. They actively seek out any negativity regarding their cult.
Example? - Today I had to delete a slew of comments from anonymous posters claiming that THIS site is full of God hating hypocrites who only wish to tear down a Godly ministry.
Where did all these anonymous posters come from?
They all came from RR of course!
They put a link to this site in their thread located here:
http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?141831-Kingdom-Studies-and-problem-child-Meg&p=1870860
It seems the only ones who can support that site are the mods.
Problem child Meg?
Why would you even refer to someone as a "problem child"?
I had to ban a poster here once. Of course no one here knows that because I never mentioned it. He wasn't a "problem child". I simply banned him and that was the end of that.
And to the mods of RR, I would say, why even bother with my blog? I don't get nearly as many visitors as RR. I no longer visit your site and don't care to. I will not be joining to try and lure your members away. I'm not interested.
I would suggest running your site the way you see fit and if someone wants to join, so be it.
And if someone doesn't like your site and wants to write about their experience on my little corner of the internet, Who cares??
Does it endanger your authority? And why even bother coming here to defend your site?
And to Problem Child Meg, (and anyone else that may be interested), there is a very good forum for those who wish to be treated properly. I encourage you to join:
http://www.endtimesroundtable.com/ETRT/
I guess I have to step in once again.
I had to delete a slew of comments today from anonymous posters defending RR.
Where did these people come from?
http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?141831-Such-love-from-trouble-child-Meg-and-other-banned-members
http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?141831-Kingdom-Studies-and-problem-child-Meg
And from Private messages on the RR site.
Yes, once again, the defenders of RR are all MODS. (sigh)
To "problem child Meg" and anyone else who may be interested, there is a very good Christian Forum where you all would be welcomed. I encourage you to join at:
http://www.endtimesroundtable.com/ETRT/
It's not my site, but the place is ran like..... well ... a Christian forum!
And to the RR team I would say, Get over it! Why do you even bother coming to my little corner of the internet?
If you don't like the people in your cult, ban them and be done with it.
It is interesting that the links to the threads on RR that you have posted now don't work. Little bit of handiwork by the RR mods? Hmmmmmmm...
Nah, the threads are still there. There's even a new one now:
http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?141831-Kingdom-Studies-and-ETRT-again
Anyone caught joining the End Times Round Table Forum is instantly banned. You don't have to say anything controversial at RR; Just join ETRT for an insta-ban :-)
The links are in a private section only accessible to mods.
Only hours after I mentioned ETRT in my last comment, an entire thread was dedicated to that "threatening" forum.
And of course, I'm still rejecting nasty comments from the RR mods.
I don't get it... I'm not welcomed to post on the RR forum, but they expect to post here?? - Go figure.
Those RR mods and admins are piranhas. What a terrible witness they are. Such arrogance and elitism! Foolish and coarse jesting abounds on that forum. It's a terrible witness to Jesus Christ.
Phl 3:18 For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping,that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:
Brother Timothy warned us...
2Ti 3:1 But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come:
2Ti 3:2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
2Ti 3:3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good,
2Ti 3:4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,
2Ti 3:5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!
Yes, the RR mods have a form of godliness but Timothy warns us to turn away from such people.
We need to use caution and have good discernment about which internet forums we belong to and Rapture Ready should be one of the first to flee from.
Eph 5:6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience.
Eph 5:7 Therefore do not be partakers with them.
AND
Mat 7:21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
Hi, this is commenter #40 again. I am really disgusted by the way they started up those threads against you and called Meg a "problem child". I could understand if they called me a problem child because I deserved it, but all she did was tell a mod that he jumped to a mistaken conclusion! How on earth does that make here a "problem child"?
In the Christian fellowship at my college, if a member has different views than a leader, they talk it out and use Scripture and logic to explain their viewpoints until they either come to a consensus or agree to disagree. The leader would never, ever kick the person out of the fellowship or refer to him/her in a derogatory manner just because he/she had different views! I am going to be a leader next semester, so maybe my goal should be to try to be as unlike the RR mods as possible.
Also, KingdomStudies, I can't seem to see the threads that you posted. Even with the new account that I made that has not been banned yet, it tells me that I do not have permission to access the page. Could you give me (and the rest of us) a quick rundown on what was being discussed in those threads?
Finally, I would say that if the RR mods come here and try to either defend their site or post nasty comments, I'd say, don't delete them. I understand the temptation to show them how it feels when they can't share their opinions, but it kind of makes us look like hypocrites since we've been complaining that they do that to us. If we can all see what they said, then we can mow down their comments with Scripture and logic. If they post nasty comments, then, well, that will just make them look bad.
I agree with commenter #49. Let us address them here where we have the freedom to speak truthfully (in Christian love) to them without being banned. There are a few things I'd like to say to several people on RR. Make a rule that they have to identify themselves by their screen name on RR.
http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?142345-Where-did-everybody-go&p=1877535#post1877535
Interesting reading at RR and validation of what we are saying about RR here at Kingdom Studies.
And not only that:
http://cocopea.wordpress.com/2010/07/11/17-reality-check-board-moderatorsmodsmodshiplordship/
Finally, the truth is all coming out!
Here's what those pompous RaptureReady.com people do to Christians on their forum for NO REASON WHATSOEVER. I was banned today. I haven't done a thing wrong on their forum. NOTHING! I simply joined a new forum started by another one of the good people they kicked off RR (again for NO PLAUSIBLE REASON). How can these charlatans identify themselves by the name of our same Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. God will judge. It's coming.
vBulletin Message
You have been banned for the following reason:
No reason was specified.
Date the ban will be lifted: Never
You would not believe the sicko mind games Rapture Ready is playing with their members! They are intermittently locking them out of the site, then letting them back in, then locking them out again, and then banning them. It is the craziest thing I ever seen. Like cyber waterboarding....just insane.
Then when they let them back in they can't PM anyone or contact an Admin. Then a few hours go by and they can't even get in, then they can, then they are banned....you have to be sick in the mind to run a website like that, or better yet sick in the heart. They need Jesus....they really need Jesus....
PUHLEAZZZZZE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was banned from RR Monday, re-instated Monday evening, banned again Tuesday evening. And all for just asking why I was banned in the first place. LOL! LOL! LOL!
Such desperate little bugs.
Anonymous post #53 -- the exact same thing has happened to me. I even got precisely the same message you did regarding the ban.
After spending nearly 2 years there (and lurking for another nearly a year), they've banned me simply because I joined Forum this past week (doubtless the same one YOU are a member of, lol).
How "Christian" is THAT??? They should be so ashamed of themselves.
i got banned for having a discussion with someone via PM, which I thought was private! just that alone made me angry, because you have to agree to this looong list of strict rules to join, but the mods are allowed to read your 'private' messages to other members. that is a ridiculous practice no matter what kind of forum you're operating; it is being dishonest.
There were some nice people on the site; I hope that they will find this link and have their eyes opened.
Case in point:
http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?143259-Reported-Private-Message-by-iSong6-3
A member that was banned from RR started his own Board. Those that joined his new site were banned from RR. RR then went and dug up some disturbing info that he was a Admin of a porn site. This info included links to the site and a PDF download of some lewd conversations, and was sent to various RR members via PM, including at least one under 18 years old. The banned member was then forced to shut down his new board. A RR Admin issued a post to the members explaining what happened.
Now everyone at RR are singing the praises of the Mods over this big time. Overkill and over-the-top praise and worship, but they did a good thing though right? Well, if someone with minimal reasonable intelligence would stop and think for a moment, even though the banned member was wrong, the fact that RR found this info raises many questions. How did they find it? How did they know where to look for it? Why was it sent to many members including a child? Have they done this before? How did they verify the info to be accurate? How much information do they search for on their members? What do they have right now? How many people viewed and download it to their computers, thus now having it permanently recorded on their systems? Do people not think anymore? They distributed more porn info to their members than many would have ever been exposed to. How many people outside of those boards now have this info? Was that good judgment, Godly wisdom and heartfelt actions? Why is no one looking at the bigger picture here?
There are many men with porn addictions. Visit the Men's Meeting Room forum and you will see quite a few members in fact that have admitted this. Granted they probably would not be stupid enough to start up a Christian website knowing they have a trail in cyberspace of where they have gone. That was just idiotic, I don't know how he thought he could get away with it. But if RR would do this to a banned member that they had no further dealings with, which means it was done out of spite, malice and revenge, how far would they go to do it to any member? The methods and tactics they used should be questioned. Someone decided it was okay to take this to members and not handle it in private. You think that was okay? Worthy of praise? Why is this being overlooked? Or maybe it's not...maybe people have been asking these questions.
In the end, nothing was done right. A lot of damage was done to people on both boards. The actions of both parties are equaling filthy and disgusting, sickening all the way around. I would not be "praising" man over this......just something to think about.
Yes, they do much, much digging on everyone who joins their site. That's what is so scary. What do they need these databases for? Who are they sharing it with?
Here's one example:
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=47563843&blogId=343863197
So I was in a friendly discussion with someone on this website about the end times and simply asked how they could justify Jesus coming before the tribulation to gather His elect...I went on tonight, to see if there was a response and what I found was a response that made me laugh!
You have been banned for the following reason:
IHOP Heresy
Date the ban will be lifted: 01-01-2010, 10:00 AM
Funny thing is, I never told them I was from IHOP! So someone must have done a little digging and research on me...someone is a little worried and a little close minded...thats okay! Even more reason to pray for them all!
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They have been working on getting my personal info as well. I've been watching their tactics for a long time. They absolutely love a good smear campaign.
God is not pleased with RR. It is going down in flames. There are very few people posting there anymore. They are so desperate they are drumming up old members and encouraging them to post. There are posts on the RR BB from members who haven't posted in years all of a sudden.
It's pathetic that they are so desperate.
I have been banned from RR too. I wanted to talk about the rapture could happen on Rosh Hashana...and I got banned after that.
My intent is not to slam raptureready, but the cruelty and injustice in which I was treated was not Christ like in the least. I was accused of things I had no knowledge of and in no way was guilty of. I am glad I know Jesus, because if I did not after the venom in which I was treated I would run as far and fast away from Christianity as I could. Their sarcasm and meaness does not represent the Jesus of scripture.
I would like to add that RR was only to happy to take my donation. Funny they do not ban you then!!!
There are still good people at RR, make no mistake, but a little leaven works through the whole batch.
Rapture Ready had become a perpetual caricature of itself. The largest End Times site in the cyber world, and yet the mockery and the contradiction of what it is pretending to be has been EXPOSED!
They are trying very hard to shove evidence back into their dark and evil closet, to silence members and make it all go away. To put up a good front and pretend all is well. It is not--and they don't yet see they need to turn to God and repent, lest they continue falling by the sword...and fast. It's so evident...so tragic.
I feel sorry for those whom have yet to discover the truth. Those true-in-Christ remnant few faithful that keep showing up to dead threads, few posts...trying to welcome new members when there are not any...wondering why all the good ones have "banned" under their names, and the once regulars don't even show up...those that don't know the hidden things they are yet still doing. I pray they will learn soon. And "know" where to go in the aftermath.
And for those still part of the cover-up, the games and intimation, spying and manipulations...SHAME on your soul before God. Shame on you! Shame on You! May he take mercy and pity on you. May you look in the mirror and say, "Satan be gone". May you fall to your knees and repent!
Regarding #64- Did anyone notice that after Todd posted the request for donations, he never ever returned to thank all those that donated? That was classless and tacky if you ask me.
But does he care about RR-BB really? Judging by how the Forum is run, I would say no. Is he aware of the multitude of problems? If he checks his 10 different email addresses, I would say yes. Why has he not done anything? I don't know.
"You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor". This is exactly what happened to me. Guess scripture does not apply to the mod's on RR and they think they are above God's laws.
I pray that anyone from RR lurking on this site listens to this sermon. It is called "When the Glory Of God Passes By" by Pastor Carter Conlon.
http://www.tscnyc.org/media_center.php?pg=sermons#top
Of course RR thinks that Times Square Church is an Apostate church but that simply is not true. I would also like to add that David Reagan of Lamb and Lion supports David Wilkerson and his ministry.
I am being cyber-stalked by Rapture Ready people.
These are scary people. They are not safe.
If you are reading this and are still a member of Rapture Ready, leave that forum quietly and don't make anybody mad as you leave.
They WILL get you back.
They WILL dog your steps.
They WILL find you.
If you join another forum don't use the same user name you had at Rapture Ready. Let's just say that the possibility to track a person's clicks from a website exists.
God have mercy on those people who call themselves by Your name. May they repent of their manipulative tactics and may they be brought to a clear mind. May they come to truly know You.
Regarding post #70 I stand in agreement to your prayer and Amen!
Regarding comment #70 - Yes, they do use backdoor tactics to learn about members. They will search for you on facebook and other forums to get any personal information they can. This is not limited to those who leave. They start gathering information as soon as you join.
And to comment #72 - Yes, they still read this site. As a matter of fact, I get more visits to this page from the RR team than from everyone else combined.
I don't know why they think it's so important, but they actually check this site several times a day.
To Post #73
The reason they think your blog is so important is because they are paranoid.
The darkness grows and grows at RaptureReady.com
As one commenter here said, SHAME! SHAME ON YOU RAPTURE READY AND ALL YOUR MINIONS.
This is beyond odd and strange. It is just plain sinister. The control and as it said in post #70 manipulation they use is evil. It is beyond any reasoning what they do???? These people need prayer because they honestly think what they are doing is ok? The enemy is the King of Lies and it is sad part is he is manipulationg them. Of course they do not think that way and I guess in their minds they justify what they are doing and do not think the Word applies to them. Pride comes before the fall. The meaness they display is not of the Lord nor a witness for the Lord. With the behavior I have witnessed, I do not understand how they can call themselves a Christian web site??? I pray also for others that are going to be hurt my RR and pray for God's protection on them.
Kingdom Studies, what you say about searching you on Facebook is true. Check out the "welcome" this guy received by the moderator Anddra: http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?140728-hey!&p=1860386#post1860386. Anddra says he has "a number of friends who it seems do not share our (your?) views." Now, how did he know this? There can only be one answer: he looked at the guys profile on a social networking site (probably Facebook). Why do they do such an extensive background check on all their members?
This situation reminds me of a book I was reading by Ann Rule who was a profiler. SHe would write in her books about narcissistic people and behavior because she was a profiler. Now there are different levels, but some of this stuff eerily reminds me of some of the things she has written. Narcissists find no fault within themselves and justify everything they do. One of the qualitites of a narcissist is and exagerated sense fo self importance and inflated self image. I have seen this behavior from some of those in control at RR and this is tragic to use that power to try to control and hurt others. They also think they are the final authority on sound doctrine and if anyone crosses them WHAM, instead of gently trying to correct them with kindness, love and scripture, they use shame, sarcasm and arrogance. Is this how Jesus acted when others were wrong? Is this how Jesus would treat others today? Of course not! We are all flawed and need Jesus, yes even all of the team at RR. The odd thing is the RR team does not do things in love nor respect of others and they do not practice the teachings of Jesus. Yes, they quote it, but practice is a verb and a sign of action, we must do it also and they do not do this. We ALL must realize "The Fear of The Lord, is the beginning of Wisdom" and it applies to ALL and not just a select few.
I've never joined RR, so I'm not in the kicked out club...but I was reading the comments about them stalking a person on FB. I am not on facebook and as far as I know am only one of the very few in the entire world that isn't. I just get a bad feeling about it. Anyone else?
MA - That's one reason I don't put personal information online.
http://www.thinq.co.uk/2010/7/28/100-million-facebook-pages-leaked-torrent-site/
With sites such as Facebook, Myspace, Flickr, etc. it is way too easy to compile your entire personal life without much effort.
And people are providing this information freely!
Let me introduce myself, I am Cocopea.
This anonymous stuff is not necessary. RR knows what I think of them. I wrote a 5 page blog about it. I stand 100% behind everything I wrote. I saw it, I was a part of it, I coveted it and contributed to it...I observed it for a long time...I am ashamed that I allowed them to matter so much to me--that I sat back and took all their crap! Said nothing as they abused others.... NO MORE the Lord said one day-- and I got up and walked away. They banned me 3 weeks later....lol!
And I really believe the comments about RR will never end because they will never change. They love to toot their own horn of how they have survived for so long. And well, evil does thrive no doubt...mold grows in dark places....bad things do survive...bad people live on.....but their acts of desperation to try and silence members is so obvious. RR has condemned itself by its very own actions.
They have figured out they can't just keep putting "banned" under everyone's names, so they just revoke all their privileges now. And "On Vacation" is as obvious as "Read Only"...it is so pathetically funny watching them...it is interesting to see what they will do next and to who.
I am so glad this blog exist and just typing in "Rapture Ready banned" brings it up. At least people will have a place to share and learn what others have been put through. I am also glad that there is a new Godly, Kind and Gentle Forum run by a beautiful SIC where former members can join. Right now it is word-of-mouth, but if anyone wants to know about it, just go to cocopea.wordpress.com and leave a comment and I will be happy to direct you to it. And to the owner of Kingdom Studies...whoever you are, thank you for letting us share!
To those dear true real Christians at RR whom are not aware of what is going on....be forewarned. Don't take anyone's word, watch for yourself and SEE. Do you really think after almost 2 years and over 10,000 posts I just left for kicks and jolly's? Why do you think regulars don't post anymore? Why do you think solid posters once there everyday are gone?
To the RR Admins, Mods and those doing the dirty work on their behalf...grow up! Confess, REPENT and change!
It saddens me that anyone or any org. would go to these length's to find out about people??? It just boggles my mind. I pray that other's affected by RR, learn that NOT all Christian's behave in this ungodly manner. RR, has posts about the invasiveness of this present government, but they do the same thing, and on Christian web site? There is something wrong and this is a double standard.
Cocopea - Thank you for taking the time to share your experience here.
If you would like to share the forum you referenced here, feel free. We don't ban people here for mentioning other forums or blogs!
Oh Wow KS, thanks! That is very kind of you. I will ask the owner if that is what she would like.
Gratefully yours, Cocopea.
Amen Coco. I feel the same way ashamed of myself. The condemning spirit there is not of the Lord.
I would also like to add that I do believe in sound doctrine and know apostasy is rampant these days, but some of the people they tout as apostates is absurd. There is no freedom of speech at RR, and I am not just speaking of athiests. I understand you have to monitor those things, but it is not monitoring over there it is like the Gestapo. It appears almost like some of the mod's are under such a spirit if control, I pray they repent before it is to late.
Food for thought for any of the mod team at RR. This is from Dr. David Jeremiah today. Of course I know you think he is an apostate also, which is absurd, but I pray you get something out of it, as I thought of all of you when I read it.
Bible Bad Boys: Goliath--Arrogance Personified
Then all this assembly shall know that the LORD does not save with sword and spear; for the battle is the LORD'S, and He will give you into our hands.
1 Samuel 17:47
Recommended Reading
1 Samuel 17:1-58
The American Heritage Dictionary says that arrogance is "marked by or arising from a feeling or assumption of one's superiority toward others." Based on that definition, if there was ever an arrogant person in history, it was the Philistine named Goliath. Goliath was massively superior to normal human beings and had the entire Israelite army quaking in their sandals.
But it was God's plan to use a young boy to prove that arrogance is the doorway to destruction. God sent David out to fight Goliath armed with simple weapons: a sling and five smooth stones. David's words to Goliath sum up the heart of arrogance and why it can never stand: "You come to me with a sword, with a spear, and with a javelin. But I come to you in the name of the LORD of hosts, the God of the armies of Israel, whom you have defied" (1 Samuel 17:45). Arrogance exalts human superiority while true strength exalts the superiority of God.
Never wear the armor of arrogance into battle. The helmet of humility is all the protection you need.
God deliberately sets Himself in array against arrogance.
John Blanchard
For those who want to join the Forum I mentioned in post #80, it is called "Celebrate Jesus", and here is the direct link:
http://s4.zetaboards.com/Celebrate_Jesus/index/
Thanks to KS for allowing me to post it, and thanks to the Admin for giving permission. She will honor the request of anyone who wants to join as long as you come right and proper and don't cause any problems. RR spies obviously are not welcome. And a special invite to all those former RR members and current ones that have had enough!
Hope to see ya there!
Cocopea
Thank you Cocopea for posting the link to the Celebrate Jesus forum and thank you Kingdom Studies for allowing this. We welcome brothers and sisters in Chist in Christian love.
I pray those who find their way to Celebrate Jesus for the purpose of Christian fellowship will first and foremost feel the love and unity that is so pervasive in our group. And I pray that those who would even consider coming to disrupt that fellowship would first stop and consider that Jesus sees our every keystroke, He knows the intent of our hearts, and He knows those whose intentions are wrong.
May God keep the owner of Kingdom Studies in His care and may He always be exalted and honored here and at Celebrate Jesus forum.
Peaceseeker, Administrator
Celebrate Jesus
http://s4.zetaboards.com/Celebrate_Jesus/index
Despite the less than honorable behavior from the mod's at RR, I choose to forgive them and pray God will convict their hearts of all the hurt and false accusations they have bestowed on many. We are called to forgive those who hurt and despitefully use us. Let us all remember what it says in Proverbs "The Tongue has the power of Life and Death".
Blessings in Christ Jesus,
Candlelight
More cyber stalking coming from RR. One more instance, and the police will be called and involved in this. I'm very serious.
You know who I am and I know who you are at RR.
I'm not afraid and I WILL defend myself through whatever legal means available.
Turn, repent, while there is still time.
This is just getting UNBELIEVABLE. What are they thinking with that kind of behavior. It is obsessive and absurd. Sounds like a horror movie. WOW!
Candlelight
Really? Can you really involve the police in cyber stalking?? Cool that is great to know. How can you tell when they are stalking us?
I am thinking that on one hand we should be grateful for being ousted and RR did us a favor. I do not want to be a part of a site that harbors such ugliness, condemnation and paranoia.
Candlelight
I'm a member of the RR board and some other boards. I just wanted to say one thing - some of what I have read here is simply a result of you breaking the rules of their board. The board is clearly Pre-Trib, for example. One of their rules is to not promote other views on that subject. That is their absolute right to sat so AND ENFORCE IT. So for some of you to think you've been banned for "asking questions" is really blatant disrespect on your part to their established rules of their board.
I also see a lot of "judge not" statements, all wrapped around judging by another stripe. At the end of the day, this type of stuff is just as ridiculous as the stuff you are supposedly being banned for. Both are equally wrong.
I am just an occasional poster on RR (less than 300 posts total since 2006), so I don't know about the other accusations that have been levied here. Franky, I don't know enough people there well enough to notice when people leave, etc. I certainly hope these other accusations are not true, obviously, as all Christians would.
But I just ask some of you to re-evaluate your positions and realize you've blatantly broken their rules. That's just as bad as you getting banned, IMHO.
Again, I am not a mod, I don't know any of the mods, and, in fact, I've butted heads with one mod here recently and was banned from a thread (and one thread only). I thought that was a little over-dramatic, given that I had publicly withdrawn from that thread, but such is life. So I'm not an "RR Fanboy" or anything like that.
Fact is, the Lord grieves all of this, on both sides.
God bless.
Anon #93 -
I joined RR back in the 90's. I can't remember what year it was, but I've seen many many good people leave, and many for posting nothing other than scripture.
Out of the 4 or 5 accounts I had there over the years, NONE were in violation of their rules. Even if I had a different view, I refrained from saying anything because I knew how intolerant they were.
However, over the years I would be banned, I would join later with a different name, email and IP and be banned again at a later point.
Again, never violating any rules.
What I learned is that they search your IP, email, username, etc. to find anything else you may be associated with online.
If your username/email is posting on a competing forum, BANNED!
If they search and find your facebook/myspace and find something condemning on it, they will use it against you.
My blog is not a very popular one. I have about a dozen regular readers. But the "Banned from Rapture Ready" post has generated more traffic to my site than ALL other posts combined.
That itself is very telling.
Many have found the posting, said their peace, and have never returned.
And you are actually the first person to come in defense of RR. I had a couple other "defense letters", but they were written by RR mods.
If you enjoy yourself there, or feel that you receive edification, by all means please continue with them.
This page is simply here as a warning so others aren't caught off guard if they find themselves ridiculed/banned for standing up for Christ.
To post #93
You've broken your own edict. You are now judging others who you say are judging. WOW! Just WOW!
Let me be the first to tell you that I never broke one, single, solitary over-the-top rule at RR. Never received a warning. Never was banned from a thread, never, never, never. Then all of a sudden...BOOM...I was banned simply for joining another forum.
RR conducts like a cult. Pure and simple. Since you are not very active there, most likely you've not witnessed the goings on. There are many, many banned members who can testify to the dark, behind-the-scenes activities of RR.
So, please heed your own advice and judge not, too.
Anon #93 here,
I wouldn't say I was coming to their defense. I just noticed some of the charges were based off of the individual in question breaking their forum rules.
As I said in my previous post, I don't know enough to comment on the other charges, and I am certainly not calling you or anyone else a liar. I know there are two sides to every story.
I'm not loyal to individuals or sites, I'm loyal to Christ. We are humans, and thus, all fallible. I'm a great internet wanderer, with the Holy Spirit as my guide =) I find brothers and sisters all over the place, and I'm sure I would find many here as well.
Thanks for posting my initial post and thanks for the response. I am not passing judgement on either side.
God bless.
Anon #95,
Anon #93 again (long lunch).
Giving one's opinion is not judging. It is merely expressing an observation. I stated I don't know enough to comment on the other accusations levied here concerning RR. But some of the reasons given in the above comments are simply the individual breaking their forum rules and getting banned for that. That is not "unchristian" at all. That is simply the rules being enforced.
Now some of the other accusations, if true, are terribly wrong. Is that judging as well?
God bless.
Anon #97
There is no "if" about it. The accusations are categorically true. I know that I am being truthful about what has been happening to me. I know what I observed first hand on RR. I know who the bird dogs are for the mods over there.
Scary bunch, that RR crowd. Don't be fooled. Get wisdom.
RR wants you to "think" they banned everyone for breaking their rules. Well, if one of their rules is that you will not EVER leave them and join another site, then well yes, lots of folks did break it! LOL! BTW- what rule number is that? Now tell me, I left on my own three weeks before they even knew what hit them, what rule did I break? They were clueless and did not know I was not planning to ever return. They only banned me after joining another Board. Are y'all blind or something? Can you not SEE it!!! Good grief...WAKE UP!!! Yes, some folks in the past I am sure were banned for breaking their rules...not the ones joining Celebrate Jesus...or even when Yogi had his board...they were all banned for having a mind of their own and exercising their freedom to join somewhere else. We do not have a problem with rules.. we have rules to follow on CJ also. Their rules are that of a Cult...plan and simple.
It is a fact they that keep lying to their members and playing the wounded victim. Trying to control their every move, action, words....They are playing them for a fool. I should know, I was once played for one too! So, give me a break please!!! They told someone I left because, and I quote from the actual post, "Cocopea voluntarily left because, if I recall correctly, the events that were happening in the world were weighing heavily on her. I've been told that she's doing fine." HA! HA! HA! That is such a lie....I left because the Mods and Admins run that place very bad. I left because the Lord showed me the evil that exists there. I left because they don't care about their members...and I left for many other reasons that I have already posted.
They can start 20 prayer threads about those of us that left. They can PM private messages back and forth all day...they can even have a whole thread devoted to CJ...they can hold meetings and discuss it on Facebook until they are blue in the face. The facts remain!!! It is NOT slander, it is the truth as testified by so many and folks still coming out of the woodwork with they testimonies.
And let's pretend it is all made up...lies as some say...lol! Well, then RR got some real problems worse than their website...because then they would have confirmed via their own evil actions what is supposedly not true if that were the case...and they would have condemned themselves over lies...Now does that even make sense??? Think about it....y'all need to think...I mean really just simply think...gee whiz!!!!!
Cocopea
Is it possible for anyone from that board to actually read our email using the email address we provide when we join? It seems an extreme invasion of privacy for someone to track us around the net to see if we visit and post on other boards.
Turin, I realize our emotions can run high at times, and I feel your comment was a bit harsh so I didn't publish it.
To ANON 100, no - no one can read your email unless they have your password. Of course, if you used your email password as a password on the forum, I would change that right away.
To post # 93
I was EXTREMELY shocked and hurt by accusations and I was comepletely in the dark. I had no idea what anyone was talking about until I was enlightened. I thought many were my friend, but they were not. The horrible ugly words a few of the mod's used was outrageous and NOT Christlike. I was accused of horrible things I did not even have knowledge of. The shock and hurt I have gotten past, but the ugly words they who claim to be Christian was heinous. I was mortified about the behavior and will never understand it. Please do not comment on things you know nothing about. You are not me and have no idea the hurt and pain they caused me. As far as good people still being at RR. Of course there is, but some who represent that seb site are not of the Lord nor do they know him, otherwise they would NEVER treat others Christian or non-Christian in the manner they have treated me and others. It was shameful and they have never apologized to me or any others that I know of. I have done nothing to deserve their wrath. Humility can go a long way.
Candlelight
I wrote to the Admin, Mods and Owners shortly after I left: I asked them to:
1- Repent.
2- To post an apology to the members on their thread.
3- I asked them to then hold a sort of "Open House" and invite back members to join...all forgiven and with no agenda of revenge on either part.
4- I offered them some suggestions on how they could better treat their members, show value and appreciation.
5-I asked them to open up the board to selecting new Mods.
6- I told them I had no interest in returning ever-- but that if they did these things, I would remove my blog entries about them and refrain from writing or commenting further.
7- I told them the only thing I wanted was for them to post the email I sent, unaltered and to begin treating members right. It matter not to me as I was done with them, but because I had done nothing to help my fellow BIC and SIC take a stand for what was right while I was there, I really wanted to see them improve their ways and see the site really become a Godly place. That was all I wanted...I had already admitted and confessed my shame and guilt for be part of the problem. For valuing my membership, and praising the MODs, etc. etc...For sitting here comfortably behind my screen, my membership secure while others where raked over the coals, and I did nothing! I did not want to be banned, so I allowed myself to become like them...for a minute anyway! At any rate, I did what I asked them to do first....
They responded to me by banning several more members that very day....
They do not practice what they preach. They are hypocrites. Coming out and admitting their wrongs and apologizing could have gone a long way in improving their relations with members. Instead of acting like "gods", they could have shown such humility. They could have set an example of the best witness of Christ like behavior ever to be seen in the cyber world. But their egos and skewed perception of self-importance only allowed them to seek revenge against its members.
The email I sent was shared via PM to others, it was titled "Cocopea Demands Apology"..but they got even that wrong. "I" did not want or need a apology as I left on my own, but I know they owed it to many.
RR, y'all messed up big time! And y'all have a LONG History of dong that....I don't know that God is gonna fix this one for you, but perhaps you should do what he has already commanded of you. You owe many a apology. When are y'all going to be real Men and Women of God and do it?
Cocopea
You, owe the Apology, Coco.
That statement is only worthy of a "HA"!
Look up! I refer you back to the previous 103 comments. LOL!
@104: You could at least explain what she did wrong; why she owes the apology. The RR mods are too prideful; they are causing division in the body of Christ with their actions and the way they treat their brothers and sisters in Christ. They are the ones who need to humble themselves and apologize and repent, not Cocopea.
************A T T E N T I O N**********
Some of the comments are getting a little out of hand, some are bickering at each other, while others are using less than appropriate language.
I believe we have some wolves among the sheep.
Some of the comments ARE appropriate, but
what I'm going to do from this point on is close all comments to those who have already posted.
I hope you understand and find this fair.
I just happened to run across this blog b/c of the recent banned members...googled out of curiosity. I don't know what transpired, but most of these comments reek of vengeance and hate. Splinter meet beam. By the way, this is BrideOfChrist.
To the owner of this blog - why would you even post such a question on your blog? It would seem it was for the sole purpose of sowing discord among the brethren, which we are not to do. Just wondering.
Why can't we just pray for each other? If you have issues with RR and/or the RR mods, pray and leave it in God's hands. Why openly post hate-filled, deregatory, spiteful comments about mods or members of a board while, at the same time, lauding the virtues of a board called "Celebrate Jesus". How hypocritical is that? This time I'll say - pot meet kettle.
Finally, I've seen ugly comments posted on the ENRT mb too, which was started by a group of disgruntled members/banned members of RR.
It's all so very sad to me.
Hi BoC,
Thanks for stopping by and taking the time to comment.
You asked why I would even give place for these comments. We are not "sowing discord among the brethren", we are exposing the enemy for who he is.
There are many antichrists in the world (I John 2:18) and they are the tares among the wheat that Christ warned us about.
Let me ask you this, Does RR warn against what they deem false teachers? (Pot, meet kettle)
Let's go to the Word of Truth and see what it says:
The Bereans test Paulʹs teachings (Acts 17:11) and the Thessalonians are commanded to test all things (1 Thess. 5:21‐22).
Jesus declared: ʺStop judging by mere appearances, and make a right judgmentʺ (John 7:24).
Jesus expelled the money changers from the temple, denounced the Pharisees and scribes, and rebuked the teachers of the Law. He reprimanded Peter in front of the other disciples (Matt. 16:22)
Paul followed Jesus’ example by naming false teachers in the church (2 Tim. 2:14-19) and openly criticizing Peter (Gal. 2:11,14)
Christian leaders are accountable to God’s people, whom the leaders serve, and should be “above reproach, respectable, and able to teach” (1 Tim. 3:2). A false teacher should be rebuked to encourage reform (Titus 1:13)
@80 Hi Cocopea,
Thank you for your Wordpress blog, and appreciate the meticulous effort you put in to your "#21- The Tribulation- Destruction Time!" blog entry. Thank you too, Kingdom Studies.
I'm a long standing member at Rapture Ready and I've been saddened to find several members had been banned outright, or put "on vacation", Yogi3939 (what was Yogi banned for?), Silent One and others. Cocopea's post made for disturbing reading.
Lord Jesus Christ told us to forgive our brothers and sisters in Christ seventy times seven, but why does it seem to be in short supply at RR and most other Christian boards? One of the main reasons for the board split in 2007 was that the then Mods were way, way too trigger happy with the ban hammer. Consider that RR has come full circle on itself in just three short years! :(
I find the normal procedure at most internet boards is for members to be given several warnings and only then put on a temporary ban or later banned outright if they repeatedly break board rules.
Outright banning at the first offense seems to happen only on Christian boards - which is amazing. We thank God that God is a God of second chances. I sincerely hope we will soon be able to say the same of His Followers on message boards and discussion forums.
God Bless!
Hello all,
I am another who has recently been banned from Rapture Ready over postings in their cult forums. Topic was catholic catechism and my "crime" was to say that not all catechisms were bad, though I did agree the catechism of the rcc was wrong.
I was lambasted by Chris, Buzzardhut, and Once Was Lost as siding with heresy for supporting such protestant catechisms as the Heidelberg and Westminster. I merely mentioned how they can help in a new christians life or help one learn doctrine. After a few go rounds of trying to make my case and answering false accusations by Buzzardhut my posts were deleted and I was effectively banned. What is even more interesting is that under my username of 5 Solas THEY inserted a "title" of catechism and liturgical apologist.
It is so sad to see supposed christians acting this way as mere children. Too bad. I used to enjoy it before when you could have open honest discussions on topics and not be bullied by some of the mods... Buzzard seems to be the worse... too bad.. hopefully they will see their error of how they treat people and repent
Jim (formally known as 5 Solas) :o) Thanks for this blog... will check it out more
So, I just discovered this site. I found it by searching "rapture ready complaint" in Yahoo!. I have been a member on Rapture Ready since early to mid 2009, and for awhile I was oblivious to everything that was going on (my username is Phillip_19). However, I've always seemed to get a sense that even though they claim that salvation is through faith alone, that the mods really believe that works are involved. There was also recently a thread that stated that anyone who gets saved during the tribulation period won't have assurance of salvation that we have. I have had plenty of posts deleted, for posting links to a website to back up things that I say, even if there is NOTHING bad on the page in question! If you post something that doesn't line up with how the mods feel, watch out!! Earlier today, I sent the mod Steve53 a PM, with a couple of complaints. I even included some scripture. Here is my message to him in it's entirety:
"How come just about every time I post something that you mods don't happen to agree with, it get deleted? In the most recent example, http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?1159-Once-a-Sheep-Always-a-Sheep-or-Salvation-Deficit-Disorder&p=1928056#post1928056, I posted a link to a web site to back up what I was saying (and there was nothing bad on it either). Apparently there is some underlying belief on this board that works must be needed for salvation, as what I posted to help prove that salvation is FAITH ONLY, AND IS OF GOD, got deleted, and I was NOT able to respond further, as that Carolina_Guy must've closed the thread as he was the last to comment, and must obviously think I teach heresy by his comment! People misunderstood my reason for posting the Bible verse, and my view of it as well. I was simply posting it to show that belief ON Jesus is all that is needed, but I was not able to say that, of course [note- I meant to add "due to the thread being closed"]. I am close to resigning my membership on here, because I am getting sick of it. I almost did it already, over a thread that tried to teach that salvation will be more works oriented after the rapture (by saying that there won't be assurance of salvation then) (http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?146102-Tribulation-Saint-Salvation-Security&p=1914233#post1914233). There is NOTHING in the Bible that teaches that!!! Salvation was by FAITH in the Old Testament, just as it is now (Hebrews 11; Genesis 15:6). We obviously know that God never changes, so if faith is what was required in the Old Testament, and faith is what is required now, then why would that change after the rapture/during the tribulation? I know that you commented, saying you agreed with the article, but nothing in the Bible states that there will be no assurance of salvation during that time. Acts 10:43 tells us that there has always been only one Gospel... "To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins." There is nothing in the Bible teaching that the plan of salvation will change during the Tribulation. People will be saved the same way as they are today, by grace through faith in the Lord (Ephesians 2:8-9). And yes, I did read Jack Kelley's article. Obviously I agree that it's best to be saved now, be raptured, and avoid the Tribulation period all together (as any sensible person would agree). But the plan of salvation doesn't change.
~Phillip
P.S.: I don't mean to sound rude or anything. If I was, I apologize. I am just expressing a couple of complaints that I have."
(part 2 of 2 of my comment. It was too long so I had to split it up)
To give him credit, it didn't take him long to reply to me. Here is Steve53's reply:
"Phillip, you must recognize that we have a responsibility to uphold the board's rules and doctrinal beliefs in all matters. Links to other sites not approved are a violation of posting rule 14. The site you linked to has other imbedded links that lead to images of partially aborted fetuses and other objectionable material. As for your other complaints, it is very difficult sometimes to divine exactly what a poster means without voice inflection and facial expressions accompanying the written word. Posts are edited all the time to enhance clarity of meaning and intent. Our edits almost always include the reason why. Many edits are followed by postings in-thread to further question the poster or, to serve as explanations for the sake of clarity and sound exegesis. Many times new threads are also merged with topically relevant existing threads that may or may not be open for further comment. The example you cited concerning C_G's post was one such instance where a merge occurred with a closed thread. If you feel you are being misunderstood, then might I suggest taking the time to read over your posts before submitting same to make sure you have conveyed your meaning accurately?
Steve"
What baloney is that!!! This was the link to the website that I gave that was deleted (I was responding to what someone said about Romans 11:22): http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Apostasy/walking_away_from_god.htm. The mods just HATE to be proven wrong. And since they merged an open thread to a closed thread, obviously they didn't want any opposition to their views. And Carolina_Guy response was to someone that responded to me. I don't know how I could be more clear to them, if I wasn't even given a chance to be!
If any of you have the same issue with the "Rapture In The Air" forum, post your comment(s) at ...
http://the-stepford-brides-of-rita.blogspot.com/
Agreed.
I was happier than a pig in mud on a warm afternoon when I found RR. I thought it was so nice to find a forum to discuss news, theories and hopes in eschatology.
It didn't take long for me to realize that you cannot disagree or take one step out of the box. I haven't been banned, but that's because I never did anything but post a news article or respond with the obligatory " :) ". I grew tired of this waste of time and constant condescension from the mods to the members and those seeking answers, so I left about two years ago.
Then, I joined the "Rapture in the Air" forum. At first, it seemed great because it appeared that the discussion was more flexible when it came to testing theories, etc. I quickly found out that if you EVER question the scriptural veracity of untouchable topics like dreams or visions then you are a troublemaker. They have the same guy posting over there with plagiarized material and constant date-setting and they just beg for more. If you call him out, you get swarmed.
I guess it's the same all over. Aren't they are decent and fair prophecy forums?!?!
Oh, well...
I pray these mods wake up to the possibility that they're motives will result in some people fleeing from the faith. I would not want to bear that burden at the Bema seat.
Yes I was banned twice. 1st time: I knew of a poster who was kicked off from another site who suddenly appeared on RR. She would go from 1 site to another threatening suicide for attention. On another forum, she posed as a licensed therapist for those who were suicidal. I contacted the Pastor of her church who confronted her. She then complained to RR and I was banned. I discovered that she too was banned a few weeks later after they figured out she had done this at other places.
I was then banned again in 2008. The moderators were pushing the Obama wasnt born in the USA thing. I did not support nor vote for Obama but I suggested their rhetoric would make them appear foolish. I drew the ire of a couple moderators. The final straw: a thread suggested public schools were bad when a young kid was suspended for wearing an anti-Obama shirt due to an agenda his father was pushing. There was a couple posters who used this to lash out at public schools. I suggested the Father fight his own battles and not use his son to push his agenda. I was then labeled a troll and non-Christian. I was subsequently banned when I protested. Shortly after the election, I believe the moderators who banned me stepped aside and one of the crazies who said Obama wasnt an American was made a moderator.
I enjoy RR and have been a member for 4 years. While I do not agree with everything there and have been warned a couple of times. I broke a rule once and was rude once making my point in frustration. I don't see anything blatantly anti-christian by any of the mods. Picking on a mod because he has a goofy/fun nickname (buzzardhut is petty and childish IMO.
I do not think that people are upset with any mod's due to the name they have picked. I along with other's was treated extremely cruel by him (Buzzardhut) and other's and their tongue's and choice of words were outrageous and uncalled for. Was not a very good witness in the least. If you choose to believe that is the reason, that is your choice, but the ones who suffered at their hand and cruelty know different.
Blessings
Thanks for clarifying that Commenter #20. You're exactly correct. Buzzardhut & Anddra are two of the most verbally abusive persons I've ever corresponded with and HisBride falls in second place right behind them. Their online personnas are disturbing to say the least.
My biggest problem with the site is their political agenda. It seems like the site was hijacked by the tea partiers / birthers / extreme political right.
Take for instance Health Care reform. I understand the politics of it. But I sincerely believe that you can be a Christian and defend the need for Health Care reform in America. But it seems that anyone who even respectfully discusses a political issue from the left, is branded a non-Christian. It happened to me.
The site is 95% great. But the site was taken over by those with a political agenda. And I think it has seriously harmed the sites testimony.
I was banned 5 times.
I concur with the above post about the site having a political agenda. I always thought it was a pretty good place until the elections of 2008 came and everyone fell hook line and sinker for all the right wing lies/rhetoric.
Anyone who has any left wing views is ganged up on and asked to give their personal testimony. Caused me to have a crisis of faith that I am still mired in.
Jesus would most likely be a pro life liberal and I'm left wondering if many on RR would crucify him all over again.
In a nutshell they are very intolerant of any views that are not held by the powers that be. Reasonable people can agree to disagree and our salvation is not dependent on 100% correct interpretation of the Bible since no one is 100% correct. But these are not reasonable people.
I would like to remind people at the right of this page is "forums" and I invite you to join us at "Celebrate Jesus". It has been like "the healing balm of Gilead" to me and what the enemy meant for harm the Lord turned to good.
Blessings
It never used to be the way it is now on RR. I too was banned, and truly, unjustly band. I have copies of the posts involving one of the Admins,(as those posts are probably deleted now)of what transpired before this ban occurred, and it was so very disheartening. This particular Admin never used to be the way he is now, and its so very sad. Im sad for all of them, the Mods, as they are so very lost! They are so completely absorbed with themselves, in great error with much self righteousness, and misguided legalism. In their self promoting "righteous" stance, they have become the very thing they claim they are fighting. Example a thread someone courageously posted, I believe it was "Where has everyone gone", or something like that. Only a very few had the courage to post a reply on that thread, and then it ended up, with only the Mods posting to each others posts, being completely self congratulatory on what a great job they all do. Absolutely no humility before the Lord whatsoever, none! Just self grandiose. Its so very, very sad! They have become so openly rude, and such a poor Witness its embarrassing. Their ears are easily "tickled" as Peter said, and they believe hook line and sinker, the latest and greatest book or video that comes out! If anyone challenges their promotion of the latest "idea" out there, you are attacked viciously, and openly. They have lost their grounding in His Word, and are of the "cut and past" crowd, that simply doesnt know His Word for themselves.They have become consumed with their own power of the "delete key". Its easy to fall into this trap from satan, especially on the Internet. They dont have to face anyone, theres no accountability. Would they speak and behave this way if they were facing Brothers and Sisters in a Church? I think not, and that is the deception, the lure of perceived power while engaging people on the Internet. Coming across what appears to be Buzzardhuts MySpace site, explains alot about his ego, sadly. Take a look for yourselves. IMHO, so many adds for so many things, it is like selling yourself, using the Lord. Yike! No different than a secular site, with all these personal "tests" you can take.
http://www.myspace.com/buzzardhut
(his site might get changed after this post)
Example:
Your Spiritual Score is: Christianity
What Your Soul Looks Like
What Kind of Soda Are You?
What is Your Personality Type?
Buzzard is a Type B+ Personality
Lots of superhero stuff, which perhaps he believes he is? Then if you scroll way down, you have this:
Details
Status: Married
Here for: Networking, Friends
Hometown: Houston
Orientation: Straight
Body type: Body builder
Ethnicity: White / Caucasian
Religion: Christian - other
Zodiac Sign: Gemini
Children: Proud parent
Smoke / Drink: No / No
Education: Post grad
Income: $75,000 to $100,000
What!!! Zodiac Sign? And finally, click on the "photos" at the top left, and youll see him in tights with a mask on. Think what ever you would like on that one. In conclusion, we Trust In Him, His Word, not Mods or message boards. His Word stands on its own, and never is returned void. The Lord knows what these folks are doing, He knows what we all are doing, He knows everything there is to know about us all! WE ALL FALL SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD,ALL OF US. In these Last Days, we need to Pray for each other, and yes, including the Mods at RR,also any of our Brothers and Sisters that are mislead!
God Bless!
Wow, several years and this thread is still kicking. My first stab at eschatology was 8 years ago, and it seemed obvious (from God opening my eyes) that there was a post-tribulation rapture. It wasn't bad at first, but then over the years is plummeted. They seem to be looking at newspaper articles about current events to predict what the Bible says. Private interpretations anyone? (2 Peter 1:20).
I believe in May 21st, 2011 being Judgment Day. It's not a popular belief, and I get hammered by people all the time for it. On Rapture Ready, it's impossible to even suggest a date - which is mind-boggling, since Noah, Lot, Pharaoh, and Nineveh knew the timing of judgment (yes, I know about Matthew 24:36 and Mark 13:32).
Anyways, I'd stay clear of that site - read your Bible instead, that's the final authority we must all be accountable for. May God be given all glory and honor!
WOW! Boy am I ever glad I ran across this. I have heard among others in the past that RR was cultic and the even wanting to post what your zodiac sign is is frightening. Make a choice - the occult or the one true living God and Savior, our Lord Jesus Christ. Thanks everyone for your input. I have read articles on that forum that I have disagreed with. I would have been banned after my first post. Reminds me too much of Catholicism, which I spent years getting away from that kind of theology. Very arrogant and intolerant of others, as if voicing a different opinion makes one the antichrist. Sad. I will warn others. Thanks again for everyone's input.
I ran across the site when a women from my church got involved in it. She became so consumed with the site, she was convinced that every church was some new age alien cult nonsense and stopped coming. She ignored her children and husband and spent hours upon hours on that site. It's sad, and so I went on there just to see what it was about and believe me, it's not a good place. At all, full of cult beleifs. I made an account and attempted just to put my own opinion, as soon as I made a comment that was different from their beliefs I was automatically banned frm the site as well as my IP address. It's scary. I hope people open their eyes.
I got on the site a few months ago not knowing what I do now. I posted my introduction and was initially slammed. I stated "I don't believe we should just focus on the return of Christ, but that we should focus on salvation and what God's destinies are for us" Well...buzzardhut, something bride? and a few other mods ganged up on me and said I was new age religious??? then when I defended myself, very calmly may I add. I was blocked from commenting. AFTER they blocked my commenting they all commented and said "Hmm...looks like someone doesn't have anything to say", " hey "myusername" I'd love to hear your answer to this". Making themselves look so self righteous and idiotic because they KNEW I didn't have posting privileges anymore. Two days later, I go back to the site and it said my IP was banned as well as the commenter above. That is when I knew it was a cult, the fact that no one can even have a single bit of a different view than them and you really cannot discuss your differences of opinion. It's really pathetic. Also, one forum post had signs of new age churches, one of the signs was interlocking chairs (pew chairs) instead of normal pews. They are WAY out of hand. My short time on there I saw many young people being members and that is frightening to me.
I found rapture ready after reading the left behind books, I enjoyed the news commentaries by Terry and Todd and the articles as well. It wasn't until 2005 that I found the rr-bb.com. That's when the road into self-righteousness, fear of apostasy, judgmental attitude and critical criticism of anyone outside of rr-bb.com belief's began.
But something happened even in the cultish mindset of rr-bb.com, God was working in me through a few good seed's in that site. I began researching for myself of what I believe and what it means to be a Christian. Eschatology took a second place to the more important evangelism and apologetic's. From there I started delving into theology I had heard of Calvinism vs. Arminianism years before but I was new and it seemed way to complicated for me, so I said it didn't matter and left it alone.
Well studying theology you eventually come face to face with the monster, and after reading both sides I realized that my understanding of the bible had always been Calvinistic. And so there I was if my presuppositions were to be labelled it was to be calvinistic.
During this time though I had helped take part in ridiculing any idea that was different from the rapture ready norm. Not knowing that the same rod was going to be measured against me. Last year a thread was created by Chris (a Mod) called
http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?151464-Calvinism-s-Different-Gospel
pretty much calling all calvinist's heretic's. Now I was on the other side of the bashing and watched in horror as some long term members argued against this stupidity and then get ganged up by the MOD's and banned even before they could respond. So was the case for me, I realized that they were tearing apart fellowship over what they perceived as important matters when this was a secondary matter. And so God healed my blindness I was like them I had fought tooth and nail over pre-trib rapture that I condemned others. In a way it was sad because I lost fellowship with a few great people on that site but this all happened for God's Glory. Now I can say I am a little more reluctant to open my mouth to secondary issues thanks to God. I know many posters are here and angry, but don't stoop down to their level, they are as human as you and me and they need prayer to heal their blindness too.
Funny thing, I was just banned also from posting in the "Calvinism's Different Gospel" thread at RR. I asked a couple of genuine questions - and was ganged up on - with any scripture I gave, ignored. I thought people with different doctrinal views could at least study the scriptures together? I stated that I do lean more towards the sovereignty of God as aposed to man's free will, but not convinced either view is 100%. The amount of hatefulness directed at my post was shocking. I do believe something is very wrong there.
Well, you can add another one to the "banned IP address" list today. I'm surprised I make it as long as I did since I even made to "regular" member status. Probably only because I felt like I was walking on eggshells all the time & didn't post much. I liked the other Christians on the site & tried to be encouaging to the newbees or someone w/a problem that was asking for advice.
Many of the Prophecy Scholars we "coundn't mention" I think are on fire for the Lord. I guess that shows they don't have very good discernment to begin with. (I was a "good girl" & followed the rules & didn't mention them.)
Ironically, I just mentioned to some friends a couple days ago it seemed like they softened up a little on their "Conspiracy Theory" parameters. They had said in the past they weren't thrilled w/the RR site but hadn't actually posted the specific reasons why.
So now that I'm up to speed it looks more like its an "honor" to be banned from RR.
There is a relatively new Forum up called "The Watchman Forum" that only has approx 350 members but you can fellowship there w/o looking over your shoulder.
Sorry you all went though this @ RR. When the stuff really hits the fan they won't have many of the solid on fire Christians around to offer the insights God has shown them to build up the Body of Christ. Praise God His ways are not our ways!
In His Glory
To Anon Post 132...
Sorry to hear that you were banned. I was following that thread and thought that the questions raised on the thread were valid...especially by one of the last posters who was last heard from Oct 15...It truly is sad that one cannot raise disagreements on topics that have no bearing on ones salvation. I am calvinistic in my doctrine, unapologetically so, so i know where you are coming from. I had seen so many lies and distortions that the mods brought up it truly was a sad thing to see by those who claim themselves to be believers. I was banned a while back for daring to say that cathechisms can be useful to the church to help believers learn doctrine. It is ironic that the church had more biblically literate believers when they used them than when they didn't...Enjoy your banishment and pray for the mods that they see the errors of their ways...
Jim (formerly 5 solas)
I'm banned. Folks with the mods approval were calling people on welfare worthless. I said it wrong to call people worthless and very unchristian. So they banned me. I guess it's okay as a christian to call people worthless. Who knew!
wow is all that still going on there?
I don't remember the year I was there but it must have been around 2002 or so, and they were exactly the same then.
got banned and never looked back, Praise the Lord!
Too many out there shoveling manure in this world, everyone needs to read the scriptures for themselves, and take nobody's word for nothing.
I know people seek fellowship, but rapture ready is not the place for it.
Good grief! I went to the RR site today just to nose around and see if they were still spewing their hatred and false doctrines. YEP! I was banned a year ago and have not looked back...good riddance for me was my frame of mind. I could never fit in there and nothing I posted was ever agreed with or usually not even responded to. I've had threads I started locked, then my posting abilities suspended, and then the mods would mock me saying I ran away like a coward, and other choice statements. HisBride was ridiculous as was that Buzzardhut personna. He's WAY off, possibly even mentally unbalanced. All the members I used to post with are gone, gone, gone. There is only a scant number of member names on that board that I recognize anymore. Guess everyone either got banned, too or finally wised up and left that heretical forum.
I was banned from RR ,was maybe 10 yrs ago , I considered maybe checking it out again , then I came across this thread , well I guess I will skip the visit or at least posting on it .
I have found that most all web sites like RR are much the same .
How can you have people come together on the internet for BIBLICAL study or fellowship from all different views and understandings and expect it to work ? It will never work that way , only division and strife can happen , so they must act like militant Mods as they are trying to keep the peace . Really it just does not work . So do not expect it to work.
1 Cor 1 v10,11
There must be unity and one mindedness in all matters of the faith .
Also it is the Holy Spirit that makes that all possible .
So how many on the internet do not have the Holy spirit , many of them. So what else could we expect , but strife etc.You cannot have a mix of believers and unbelievers in a web site setting like RR or others like it .
I think that only knowing people in person even has a chance of working as far as getting Godly unity on the faith and truth of the scriptures , which would supply the fellowship we all would like to have .
A mixed bag will never work , why because they all are dancing to a different tune so to speak , and not the One that the Holy Spirit makes.
I was banned a couple months ago. I can still "log in" but it always says the server is "too busy." If the server is "too busy" then how can everyone else post and not I everyday for the last 2 months. the beliefs they force on believers is NOT Godly. The mods do not allow to be rebuked for correction. They dominate and ban anyone that speaks truth. It's frustrating. I am all for the rapture. Carla47 and isong must be the same person from the posts they post. They dominate by moderating ip addresssed. I asked Todd, the owner, for my screen name and profile to be deleted. He said nobodys is ever deleted because of needing ip address info. That's how they keep double profiles straight and from banned members re-appearing. They KNOW that their site is a fraud in God's eyes. Steve53 and Isong are dictators. All they ever say is "blah blah.... whatever" and then "Well it has too be soon." "Yep sooon..." "....Anytime now." How are they helping God's kingdom? They also believe that the church (of only america i guess) wont see persecution when Jesus said we would. How many people are suffering for christ??? Wake up. Believer's are dying all over. We're lucky. Things are only going to get worse and they refuse to hear it. "Jesus doesn't want a beat up bride..." Tell that to the preacher in iran or the dead believers all over the M.E. and africa. I think alot of them are in for a rude wake up call when their necks in in a guilloutine or imprisoned in a american concintration camp... They condemn all that is good. " Juist Look at all those evil people living off the government!" Let's help them not condemn!!! Everything is negative. The website burns me up. Absolute evil.
It's worse than absolute evil - the website is run by people who are Christians in name only. Deceiteful, dishonest, etc... Warnings are not given - people who speak the truth are banned, but the user name stays the same and does not show "banned" under it. Therefore, no one knows that the person cannot post or read anymore. I can't figure out their agenda there? Why delete and change people's posts that they disagree with? Why not just discuss with scripture? I noticed when people do use scripture they are the ones usually banned. Its very sickening....however, I watched the old RR board fall apart and the very hateful 2 two women that moderated it eventually reaped what they had sewn. I wondered how long God would allow the abuse, and then in rather short order, calamity happened to both of them in their personal lives. ....I'm not rejoicing in that fact, its just that God doesn't allow it to go on forever. I would be very afraid if I were the mods on this current board treating God's children with utter deceit and abuse of power - they have no fear of God, only the craving of power. Their mouths speak what is in their hearts. Best to stay away from that place - Not much can be learned there anyway when every word is monitored by the enemy.
I used to be a member of RR yrs. ago before the split - & now the New RR has a mod named Steve53 who is, imo, the worst of the mods -Some type of Nepoleon Complex he has! "he" sounds very familiar to me; almost exactly like "Christine" from the old RR board. The use of many identical & very uncommon phrases were written by both; and their writing style is identical. I wouldn't be at all surprised if both were the same person. I do know for a fact that "private messages" are not private. Why such evil on a "Christian" website? It would take a book to write of all the deceptive practices I and another member have witnessed at that site over the yrs. I truly believe that the "tares" are running the show at RR - and sadly, they believe that they are "wheat". Such hardened hearts are rarely even seen among professing unbelievers. sad. Two of my close friends remain members at RR - but only for the curiosity. Its rather interesting to watch the enemy pose as believers...but those with eyes to see, such as those who have posted here, are on to them. May God protect and give wisdom to us all who are His in these deceptive last days!
This is OliveOilMom and I was recently banned from RR because when I joined I was asked to post my testimony. I told them I would gladly do that but it would be a few days before I had the time to write it out the way I wanted to. They kept on and on and ganged up on me and accused me of not being a Christian, not having a testimony, being a troll, etc. So I posted an extremely short version of it, and then I told them that judging me like that was unkind, unchristian and wrong. Thats when my IP was banned.
Chris PM'd me and invited me to RF site (their sister site) and said it was nicer. It was for a day or so. Then they started in too. Apparantly my final sin was on a (now completely re-edited and retitled) thread about the Zimmerman shooting in Florida, I had asked a guy who posted info that I hadn't seen about the case "Where did you get that info?" There was no link or anything just a list of things I hadn't heard. I have a friend who is following the story and I wanted to send it to her. He went off on me accusing me of all kinds of stuff. I kept trying to explain that I didn't mean it offensively when I asked him where he found it, I just wanted a link so I could show it to someone who might find it interesting. Then Mattfivefour told me that the Bible says we shouldn't defend ourselves. I was being unchristian. Please! That thread is in Rapture Forums (not Rapture Ready) and it's under the breaking news section. I'm sure it's been changed even more by now.
Anyway, I posted elsewhere and told them I was going, that I had found out about how they actually treat people, and I'm not going to stay there. I did that just a few minutes ago and I'm sure I'm banned now.
They were just mean for no reason at all! None!
Wow! I just found this site Googling, wondering if it was just me.
I haven't been banned yet, but I definitely believe you guys. I'm sure it's only a matter of time until I am banned.
As a new member, I created a thread in the Apostasy forum regarding what a teacher they respected (and even I respect) said on his radio show that I thought was doctrinally really, really bad. (The pastor said that were many "good" Mormons who would go to heaven as long as they had a relationship with Jesus and didn't think works saved them.)
My thread title called to pray for this pastor, because I know he is well-respected, and I am personally concerned for him. I was very humble about the entire post, as I figured there would be enough raw nerves. I also merely wanted a fair discussion opportunity over this pastor's words.
Well, within seconds from posting the thread, it was moved directly from the Apostasy forum to the Prayer Request forum. The Prayer Request forum? Really? Within a day later, the thread was buried, since that forum is very busy with people's actual personal prayer requests (and understandably so!). I figured it was an honest mistake that my thread was moved there, since the title had the word "pray" in it.
I politely asked in the "Board Help & Suggestions" forum what to do if I felt that my thread was accidentally moved to the wrong forum. I also said in advance sorry and that I was new, and I was wondering if I had broken a rule. I didn't know who to contact to find out what I had done wrong.
iSong6:3, one of the mods, replied back, saying I had broken a forum rule by asking why my thread had been moved. I was told to contact an admin about it, but was never told how. iSong6:3 also said stated his/her opinion regarding the thread (that he/she/whoever agreed with what the teacher said). This made me suspect that my thread had been deliberately buried, but I decided to assume the best and figure out on my own how to contact an admin.
At last, I figured out how, and I contacted Buzzardhut. He moved the thread back to the Apostasy forum, no questions asked.
Within hours, mods (including iSong6:3) started ganging up on me in my thread. I have no problem that they disagree. But iSong6:3 moved my thread AGAIN, this time to the "Christian Chat" forum, saying that because they couldn't agree that the teacher was heading into apostasy, that it didn't belong in the Apostasy forum. Meanwhile, there were a few people who posted that agreed with me, but their opinions were ignored.
Then I asked (politely, saying I was confused) why my thread got moved again, even though an admin had moved it back to Apostasy? HeIsEnough (another mod) responded verbatim with the following:
"Don't make it a habit about questioning where things go in the open forum please. Read the rules again if you don't recall what they say."
I finally said sorry, I'll shut up, and sorry for stepping on a sacred cow by breaking a forum rule and calling out a teacher they liked.
HeIsEnough pointed out that I had broken yet another rule by having a sarcastic reply that was filled with "deep-seated anger".
So now I'm the angry one, and well on my way to being banned. Am I frustrated? Yes. Angry? No. Just confused, and starting to feel cornered and ganged up on. Who wouldn't? How can I not come away with the impression that I've just been censored? And how can I not help but publicly question why my thread keeps getting buried in odd forums, when the mods are publicly stating that they're moving my thread?
I am so not posting again at Rapture Ready. Sorry for the rest of you who have been hurt. I feel your pain.
This is poster #43 following up.
I logged into my RR account today, just to see if the thread was still up. My thread was deleted.
However, I did have a private message awaiting me. It was from a fellow board member (NOT a moderator) who agreed with my thread and thanked me for posting the information. She even said she felt some of the moderators were rude, and felt one even kind of attacked me by throwing the rule book at me.
Sadly, I could not reply to this kind person, because when I tried to, it said I was banned:
"You have been banned for the following reason:
No reason was specified. Date the ban will be lifted: Never"
I have never experienced the like in any forum I've ever participated in. Ever.
What a sad, sad witness for Christ. I feel very sorry for any Christians who were emotionally hurt by these people. And I feel sorry as well for any unbelievers who might never want to hear the Gospel again because of how these moderators treat others.
I forgive them, but I pray God brings them to their senses.
Re: Post #43-44...I believe I know who you are and I think I am that person who sent you that PM in the Rapture Ready forum.
To make a long story short, I've also been banned...I never received a formal "ban" notice, but was falsely accused of having more than one account. My husband and I use the same IP address (same network, two different computers)and when he registered, of course the same IP showed up. Instead of asking me in a PM and trying to rectify their obvious error, the administration banned one of the names and restricted my account (which I've had for 6 years) to where I cannot even log on. I can only "read" when I am not logged in (which is impossible now). I left their FB group too. I also wrote two emails to one of the mods (the one who came after you) asking her if she could please check into the "multiple accounts" problem. I never received a response from her, nor did I receive a response for the administration on FB.
I was viciously attacked by the mods in the Apologetics forum because I questioned someone's salvation, who is now deceased. All my posts were deleted in that forum (Apologetics)and I cannot get into it at all now.
I was wondering what had happened to you. You had a really cool avatar..but I can't remember your nic. My nic is "LindaR".
Re: Post #39..."I was banned a couple months ago. I can still "log in" but it always says the server is "too busy." If the server is "too busy" then how can everyone else post and not I everyday for the last 2 months."
This is exactly what happened to me on April 9, 2012. I also had encounters with Steve53 and iSong, so all I am reading here sounds very familiar. Thank you for this site.
Frankly, I'm glad to be gone from RR. The funny thing is that if you look on the RR homepage, you'll find pastors listed there, I guess, Todd (or whoever monitors the homepage) says are "safe", but then when you go to rr-bb.com, the moderators are bad mouthing and saying they're doctrinally unsound. Pastor John MacArthur and the late Pastor David Wilkerson are two they've bashed as basically being heretics.
Also, I've seen news articles posted on the homepage, but the mods remove when someone posts them on the rr-bb.com site. Doesn't Todd or Terry ever go to rr-bb.com to see what the mods are doing there? Anyway, I'll NEVER go back there - I'm done with the crazy mods allowing certain people to post anything they want, but others are reprimanded, banned, etc. for the least little believed infraction.
This is makeupgirl from RR. I just asked to be banned because I couldn't take it anymore. All I did was ask questions as to why does it say something about someone if they voted or have voted for Obama. I'm not a supporter but I'm not going to bash the dude and I point blank told them that. A few (Tim K and Florian)in particular said A "True Christian" would not vote or support Obama.
It hurt me deeply that they actually was comparing supporting Obama or even voting for him to being a Christian which has nothing to do with the other. Then when I came out as a Democrat, you would have thought that I mentioned the word "bomb" on the airplane.
So lately, I was having these dreams about racism. I never knew why until I saw RR for what it really was and I knew the Lord was revealing to me that it was time to leave. It's blatantly obvious that they literally hate Obama over there and show some possible undercover racism towards him. Calling him the anti-Christ, trying to find proof that he's not a US Citizen, stating that he's evil, etc..etc.. I called them out and told them to be honest as to why they really feel about him and not just say it's because he goes against the what's in the bible as an excuse. They didn't like that but I don't care, I know a hypocrite when I see one. I just say own it, if they have some issues with him that doesn't have to do with him either not being a Christian or even as a democrat. I told them straight up, I refuse to drink the kool-aid called "lets get together and hate obama" No, that's wrong and not what Christ would have done. And if they don't feel any guilt, remorse, or conviction about doing that, then it speaks a lot about them.
I'll confess, I didn't leave on good terms because I called out a couple of people and also my deadpan sense of humor probably wasn't taken lightly and I'll own up to that but take away my right to agree, disagree, to think, to laugh, or to express myself and then state that I'm not a Christian because of it, then I have a problem and now I am going to question with a heavy heart, if the there is a cult going on over there or if there are wolves in disguise of sheeps.
I'm pretty much over what has been done and what happened but being banned (even though I asked to be) was the best thing ever.
We live for Christ and Christ alone and I'm sure he would not have hated on anyone for their difference of opinion nor would he hate someone that may be of a different race, nationality, or have different values.
I pray that they will allow God to show them the error of their ways. Either way, I'm done over there.
Guys, I used to post on rr bulletin board too. And have been banned without a formal notice. One of the moderators sent a pm asking me to move on initially saying I'm trending towards Calvinism. Unfortunately I'm "calvinistic" in the Paul Henebury sense which Henebury himself declares he is non-Calvinist!
The banning in Sep last year was like you guys -unable to log in, you know it sounds fishy when the server is "too busy" at 3:00 am EST 7 days a week. And on a sister forum a person who is a moderator on both forum recognised me and admitted freely I was ousted from RR.
It turns out vbulletin v4 (the engine underneath RR) has a hack called miserable users which prevents persona non grata from logging in. This is designed to inflict greater pain than banning straight away. I believe the use if this hack is not only unethical, not to mention in-Christian, it breaches their own board rules regarding procedures in banning someone.
Also, when the current board was set up in April 2007 an excuse given from Todd S was the old board didn't reflect their views on issues as it was an independent forum. Come on, the moderators of the current RR board is now doing the same thing, and declaring the main site and forum are under different editorial positions.
Something I just came upon. I lurk on RR. THis is/was a post started on Rapture Ready discussing "Nephillim."
The original post is gone deleted by the Mods. the user's respone beloew :
Excuse me, but snipping my post for mentioning exactly what the Bible (in Hebrew and plain English) states on it's own may be within the powers of the mods here, but calling it "false teaching" is wrong. I am not guilty of false teaching for plainly stating what the Old Testament itself says about the origins of the Giants.
STEVE53's comments/Respone (He's a Mod.)
Originally Posted by XXXXXXXXX censored for privacy...
Excuse me, ...
Steve53:
Excuse us - the relevent portion of the rule -
[6]....Angelic procreation and cloning, demon seeds (Nephilim)
Oh and excuse us again please -
[28] No posting threads about your personal infractions, deleted threads, or "why was my thread moved?" threads. All issues pertaining to board rules and clarifications will be discussed and handled by the Admin team. You may PM the Admin team if you disagree with any rules or infractions rather than posting protests and concerns. No deep seated angry sarcastic posts due to animosity with the mods or board rules.
What happened to rebuking others with compassion? Or does the bible allow for rudeness when being a internet Moderator...?
I don't know where R.R. is getting their bibles at but MY bible says pretty bluntly that the nepillim are from fallen angel's seed with women.
Excuse me Steve53 for standing up for someone you put down trying to speak the truth.... and not ignoring it like you.
Amazing! I can't believe I found this site. I posted on RR last year about the similarities between the Mahdi and the anti-christ and I was warned and my post was closed. I didn't go back on there until this summer and was amazed at how a guy was attacked by asking, "are we sure we are in the end times". One poster was really mean to him. I private messaged him and when there was no response, I posted on his thread that i didn't think he was coming back, nothing more that that and they deleted it. In my gut, something didn't seem right about this very popular website, i thought it was just me, but wow, the responses on this forum is overwhelming. I too tried to delete my account on RR, but I can't. I regret ever joining thier site.
I've come to the conclusion that the mods and many others who post there are not really Christians. Satan all throughout history has used 5th column attacks on Christians. It's a brilliant strategy that works so well he hasn't had to change his tactics down through the ages.
The site seems to have a political agenda bordering on fascism. The political forum is nothing but extreme right wing propaganda and anyone with slightly different views is shouted down and made to look stupid. God made us all different and gives us freedom to be ourselves. The people over at RR do not teach with love. It is either their way or the highway. God is not a fascist!
I also find it odd the they squelch anyone who believes what the bible clearly says about the Nephilim or anyone who believes in some of these conspiracy theories.
I still believe their interpretation of the bible is fairly reliable. I still believe in the pre trib rapture and salvation by grace through faith but I really cannot recommend that site to anyone which is a shame since there are many good Christians still over there who either wonder what is going on or who are still ignorant of their agenda.
God can still use RR for His purpose. He is still in control and you have to let Him be sovereign over his entire creation. Remember He used Balaam as a prophet and in Philippians 1 some were preaching Christ out of selfish ambition to stir up trouble for Paul.
But I do have a funny feeling that RR will be used as a tool of deception after the rapture takes place. For instance, why do they put all the Nephilim posts in 1 giant thread? Maybe so it is easier to delete when we are gone??
God bless to all my brothers and sister in Christ out there. These are crazy times and we need to hang in there.
Banned before I could even make my first post!
Hi my name is Melinda and I wanted to chime in because my experience at Rapture Ready was very strange to me.
I had a couple of questions about salvation and the Rapture and I went online looking for a good Bible based place to ask. One would think that a place called Rapture Ready would be a good place! So I looked over the forum before joining and it did seem like a place that was biblically sound so I decided to join.
I joined and discovered I couldn't just ask my questions. I had to wait for someone to approve my account. I thought it wouldn't take long, so I looked through the different sections of the forum to see if they had a place to ask questions since some places on the forum are only visible to members and I thought maybe I missed it. I couldn't decide if I should ask my questions seperately or in the same thread or where to ask. I decided to ask in the Christian chat section but I still couldn't make a post. I got up and left the computer for a few minutes to get something to eat from my kitchen and when I came back I had been logged out of the forum. I live alone so there was no one else home to log me out and I'm certain I didn't log myself out. When I tried to log in I had been banned!!
I tried a link that said to email the administrator and when I clicked on it it said email was disabled. I couldn't understand what I had done wrong since I had never even had the chance to post so I decided to search online to see if others had the same problem and maybe there was a fix. That's when I found this thread. the only thing I can guess is maybe they are a cult and they only want a certain number of members or something and they aren't letting anyone else in? After reading through all of this I'm glad I didn't even get to ask anything. All of their ways seem very, very shady and not Christ like at all.
I was banned from RR awhile back and started my own message board at Yahoo. I thought they were heavy-handed when it comes to editing posts, and imo they still are. I lurk from time to time and lost track of how many posts include the words "mod snip" and "rule #whatever."
Another issue I had with them is there are certain news sources they ban from the message forum, but at least one of them is on their main news page on a regular basis. Why is that? Makes no sense to me.
Hi, I'm BarbT on Rapture Ready. :) I recognize some of the posters here.
Sadly, I also recognize the identical focus on "self" in most of these complaint posts. There's a disturbing lack of humility or willingness to honestly examine how their comments/posting style at RR could have been considered problematic.
Trolls have always tried to slip liberalism, doctrinally unsound "innocent questions", and post-trib Rapture beliefs into RR discussions. Their attempts to sow discord by disobeying the clearly stated rules cannot be ignored.
I'm happy when the Mods crack down on these rebellious people. Trouble is, pride blinds them from seeing themselves as many others do.
Howdy BarbT :) I remember you also!
I agree that there are undoubtedly some with just "self" in mind but I do not buy everything you are saying. There is no way that this many people have complaints and there is nothing wrong. The issue of selfishness works both ways and the Mods also have problems.
Can you without a doubt say they don't make mistakes? I've never seen much of an apology when a mistake is made. "Disobey"? We are NOT kids. I agree, pride blinds the Mods from seeing themselves as many others do.
I am a Christian. I love the Lord with all my heart, mind and soul. I realize we are withouth sin and Jesus assumed the form of a man, was sinless, gave His life for us, rose from the dead. Conquered death and sin. I still sin though because I am flesh also. The mods do it too.
I worry about the ones who may be on the verge of becoming a Christian and they see the silliness that is on Rapture Ready.
BarbT,
I enjoyed reading your post. I was a member RR under the screen name 5 solas and I have also posted my experience at RR. It is post 112.
I agree with you that there were, are and always will be trolls at any Internet site. Probably more so at a Christian site. I also agree fully that it is important to uphold correct biblical doctrine, especially if it has to do with an essential christian doctrine. BUT here are some of my major disagreements with your post as well as with the goings on at RR.
For one thing I see a lot of pettiness in the moderators. As my post on this forum, 112, mentions that I had a disagreement with the mods over the usefulness of catechisms in the church. I know RR does not agree with them, and the purpose of this post is not to rehash the discussion I had with them, but the way the handeld it was very petty on their part. The post I responded to was a post started by a moderator that was very condescending to those fellow Christians that use catechisms. My response was simply that not all cathechisms were bad, such as Westminster etc... The response I got back was in essence them attacking my position. We went back and forth for several rounds until I was finally banned.
Now you will ask, and rightly so, did I not know that promotion of cathechisms was frowned upon at RR? My answer is yes I did know that. Then why did I break the rules of the forum? The answer lies in their pettiness and here is how and why I call them petty in their handling of not only me but others here as well.
If the moderators do not cathechisms talked about then don't bash them. Don't mention them. As mentioned it was a moderator who initiated the thread. I merely responded to defend their use. Would I have mentioned cathechisms Otherwise? No I would not. But because they took it upon THEMSELVES to start a thread and bash fellow believers who do use them I felt I had to respond to them since what they were doing was incorrect. They are very useful, but their defense is not the purpose of this thread. You may feel that I acted in error bit my response to you would then be how many times have the moderators, as well as other members, told certain members who felt their church was straying to confront a pastor etc.. On where they felt the church was going wrong. If they can tell a member to that within their church then they should be able to discuss something that they may disagree with ESPECIALLY since THEY brought the topic up in the first place. Is that not the fair and Christian thing to do? Let us reason together? You might then sa what about those believers who are new to the faith. Could they not be led astray? My answer is no more than those who use cathechisms and who may be offended or hurt by the comments of the moderator who started the thread.
Another way they are petty is that many other threads are started that way or resurrected by the moderators when postings slow down. For example Calvinism is a great one to resurrect when postings get slow. Many times in the apologetics forum, where I usually went, I have seen that topic be resurrected, usually by Buzzard, even though no one posted on it for several months....why stir the pot? Then when someone defends Calvinism they are blasted. Why should the moderators do that? Why bring the subject up? And when it is brought up it was always to castigate and bash those who hold to that view. To me that is disingenuous and THEM causing the strife. If the moderators can't or won't defend their position bit would rather hide behind the rules then don't bring it up to hurt your fellow believers.....
Another way in which they are petty is, as I mentioned in my post on this forum 112, THEY inserted a tag line for me, cathechism and liturgical apologist...pretty childish don't you think especially if one is a moderator?
BarbT,
To continue the post since it was too long
Also as others have mentioned there were no warnings on being banned, no reason why, and no way to contact the moderator who banned the person or the administrator. Is that the Christian way?
Also in another instance I had seen a person who had mentioned they had voted for Obama. Now I am as conservative as one can get both politically and doctrinally. This person was then lambasted by the moderators. I stood up for her and and said that ones vote doesn't make one a believer or nonbeliever. I was subsequently suspended for a few months. Was this the right way to treat a fellow believer on their part.
I could go on and on and give several other examples but time is getting late. Suffice it say is that in my opinion the moderators basically need to grow up. If they want their forbidden topics not to be discussed....don't bring them up...and if they are brought up don't make snide remarks because as scripture says the tongue is a fire....they may "think" they are upholding scripture but by their actions they are denying it....
Have a great night
Jim
Hello Anonomous 55. Thanks for allowing me to dialogue with you. :)
You stated "There is no way that this many people have complaints and there is nothing wrong."
I view the emphasis on "this many people" in the opposite light. Out of 17,000 members very few are actually are banned. In the majority of cases when someone has lost posting rights I have been relieved to see the Mods have taken action. Heck, I've even seen A MOD dismissed for going into heretical beliefs. Not an easy decision to make, I'm sure, but it was for the good of the fellowship.:)
You ask "Can you [say] without a doubt say they don't make mistakes?"
Of course not. I also realize misunderstandings can occur on both sides. But as I said before I recognize many of the ex-posters here despite their attempts at anonymity. Let's take a look at some of the direct quotes about Rapture Ready the complainers have brought to Kingdom Studies:
*I HATE THAT SITE!!!
*cult forums
*siding with heresy
*(RR) is NOT a Christian site
*No, RR is not a Christian forum.
*These people do not seek the truth
*promoting ungodly values
* unChristian agenda
*sicko mind games Rapture Ready is playing
*satanic avatars and user names.
*conditions Christians to partake of sin
*ohhh i hate that site
*we are exposing the enemy
*a bunch of legalistic, self-righteous, mean-spirited jerks who run off at the mouth about Jesus
....and these *gems* are just for starters.:(
You also replied to me: "'Disobey'? We are NOT kids."
I'm so glad you brought up this important point.
Someone here said "Jesus was most likely a pro-life Liberal who would be crucified all over again at RR".
Another person here declared his belief that May 21, 2011 was judgement day, angrily mocking RR mods for censoring his freedom to say it.
Both views serve as examples of violating stated board rules yet these people felt it was their right to say whatever they want anyway.
That is unvarnished DISOBEDIENCE any way you slice it.These posters may not be children, as you put it, but such behavior is childish.
It's hard to understand why some folks can't see the reasons they would have trouble keeping their accounts at Rapture Ready. The reasons certainly are crystal clear to the thousands of RR posters who remain in good standing. :)
Hi Solas! It's good to see you again. :)
I'd like to address your concern about Rapture Ready Mods "resurrecting" old threads where fresh arguments may break out again.
People who are new to the board frequently start new threads outside the proper forum. That thread will be merged with an existing older one in the correct forum, bumping it into view again. No one is trying to "stir the pot". If the new discussion gets heated in defense of the Gospel I'm all for it. :)
Hope that clears it up for you.:)
BarbT,
That sounds like a possibility for some things but not for the items and threads I described...
As mentioned the thread that had me banned was STARTED by a moderator NOT merged with another. So the possibility that you bring up is not what happened. Also why start a thread to bash certain groups of Christians viewpoints and not allow them to respond to defend their views? Disingenuous on the mods part if you ask me. Also if you are going to ban someone why not provide a warning, and then if you do ban them why then put a title under their name that they did not request...I.e. the title they gave me...catechism and liturgical apologist...sounds childish to me don't you think?
The resurrected threads on Calvinism also were not merged threads that reappeared. There were no comments for several months and then moderators commented again thus resurrecting the thread to stir the pot.
Also to reiterate my example of them suspending me for supporting someone who was bashed for voting for Obama do you think that was a correct and Christian response on the moderators part? You may ask was that the reason why I was suspended? Yes it was due to a reply from a mod because of my support for the person where I basically said ones voting record doesn't male one a better christian than another.
Please answer the above questions...have a great day
Jim (5solas)
BarbT,
I was banned because I called a moderator out on his hate. Many of the "christian" members out of love had been saying that people on welfare were trash and worthless. I reminded them that Christ died for the entire world. so everyone can be saved. I'm sure you've heard of john 3:16. I also listed some other things Jesus said, like love your neighbor. The moderator called my arguement weak at best. I asked why and I was banned.
BarbT, may I ask what your heart condition is? it sounds like RR is like the jewish leaders who dealt with christ. "You broke the law (of RR) how dare you"! okay we broke the law. now where is the forgiveness and grace of christ? your post boasts of "how good you are" and "how bad we are"
I'm glad you have a happy place to post. Stay there. Keep the rules safe. Jesus died for me and my sinful nature of breaking them.
I would like to step in for a moment and thank everyone for keeping things civil.
There remains a vast difference of opinion on the purpose and/or effectiveness of the RR forum.
I do believe the issues as mentioned above are ample evidence that there are those who love the Lord and find very much wrong with the site.
That being said, any future comments for defending the RR forum should be posted on that forum.
If you are happy there and enjoy using that forum, by all means continue!
This particular posting was aimed as an outlet for those who feel there is something wrong that should be addressed.
This can be seen as an effort for the site admin and mods to reconsider their position, or to warn others of potential misguidance, or it can be seen as a bunch of whiners coming here to complain.
However you see it, please use your own judgment and fellowship where you see fit.
Thank you for providing the forum....
Sister BarbT,
What a true joy to see you Sister :) I have always had great respect for you. Forgive me Sis, but you are in great error, and I must respectfully disagree with your view of RR. Yes there have been trolls, and all sorts of disagreements, infiltrations, going on there for years. But facts are facts dear Sis, and some of the Mods are drunk with power and darkness. They have indeed become the very thing they accuse others of, and it is they that have NO humility before the Lord whatsoever. It is the Mods that are drenched in self righteousness and pride. You’ve been there along time, don’t you remember the kindness that was extended to posters with warnings? That’s done in His Love, there is no viciousness needed as they act now. After warnings, if the apparent offender continues, then of course they have every right to “ban” someone. BTW, fact, truthfully, I broke NO RULES.
I have watched this darkness creep in for years, and the Love of Christ diminished from them. Some of them are very dark Sis. There is a lot of things going on there that yourself and the dear Brothers and Sisters are not aware of, and it is heartbreaking. Shocking actually. Ask yourself what happened to alot of the Mods? Why did they leave? Why are Mods banned? 17k members? they take as boasting rights, but the truth is these members are by no means all ACTIVE. They dont delete peoples profiles, so that they can track IP addresses. This is the Truth Sis Im so sad to say, you cannot trust any kind of messages to be private. I know facts, I have proof of what occurred with myself. Copy and paste before they delete is a good thing :)
They have become Pharisees and there will indeed be alot of accountability before the Lord, I assure you. Self-Righteousness is ugly and dark. BTW, if you get a chance, check out the myspace for buz (caution there may be a virus on his site). Perhaps the photos of him in tights with a mask on and his posting in his profile of what astrological sign he is, might enlighten you a bit. It is all about self grandiose, and there miss guided belief in their own imagined power. There will be no key boards for them to hide behind before the Lord, and that time for the Bridegroom to come for us is fast approaching. Just as His Word says for these Last Days, some of these Mods are themselves fulfilling Prophecy.
2 Timothy 3:5
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
I will Pray for you dear Sis,and our other innocent Brothers and Sisters there, that the Holy Spirit is poured out on you in a mighty way, allowing you to see what is and has been happening there. Time is short Sis, please run from there. Looking forward to meeting you at the Tree of Life, we can then sit in amazement and have a good long talk :)
God Bless You Dear Sister!
@DANA from post 151:
Hello, I believe that I was the OP you were talking about at RR. That was my first post and the way the members responded just seemed so cultish and illogical to me that I simply left. I am glad to see that you saw the light about that site as well. Take care.
Dave
As a believer, and a member on RR on and off over the years and from a country outside the US, I do find some of the sentiment there, well, very disturbing to be honest. Do all Christians from America really hate anyone who doesn't agree with the American right political position? To such an extent that anyone who doesn't agree with or otherwise understand the implications of, is scorned, mocked and treated with such unbridled contempt? It seriously breaks my heart that the Christian community has descended to this level of carnality, yet seems more of an American thing myself.
This page is so comforting. RR angers and still haunts me. Knowing I might have been stalked and raped by the mods hurts(They might have broken into my FB or email accounts for all I know.) I've posted my story above but thank you for an outlet of truth. I'm so saddened that RR could very well be a great site of love, truth and hope. It's odd how helpless I've been left to feel from it all. I just want an apology or something.... I thought I was among friends but in reality my friends were being banned. Love to you all!
I used to post there years and years ago, before the split, and even before that on the very old old message board they had. I witnessed it going down hill. The mods there have always been vicious I think it's a requirement. I seen friends get banned for silly things, like posting nutritional things, and warning against vaccinations. Some at the time warning about the new world order, and the mods would come down like attack dogs.
I realized that that site was NOT a Christian site. It was a place to lure Christians and make a cult with them. To have them all act the same way as the mods. And many did.
What is there agenda? To scare people away from God, and to keep Christians in the dark.
Forgive me for cutting and pasting some of your comments, but while reading I couldn't believe the hypocrisy shown by RR mods.
#1: I have been banned three times, once only for referring to Ahmadinajad as Imadinnerjacket ; )
Me: Posters at RR nowadays frequently refer to him by the same name, or other variants. I haven't seen anyone banned for this.
#7: The Islamic Antichrist theme… I was banned for politely challenging it.
Me: Posters at RR nowadays frequently discuss the possibility of the AC being Islamic. I haven't seen anyone banned for this.
#35: Is it appropriate for a Christian to call himself "Buzzardhut"?
Me: Funny, I was wondering the same thing myself last night.
By the way, just this past summer Buzzardhut claimed that other people besides Noah's family got saved during the Flood. Countless other RR members agreed with him despite the fact the Bible says otherwise. ONE person had the guts to point this out to him. Naturally their comments were removed.
#37: I remember when one user disproved an outrageous hateful claim made about Obama and one user replied “Are you a Christian? All I see you doing is defending Obama and talking politics”.
Me: They still use this lame comeback whenever someone calls them out on their Obama-bashing. I'm not a Democrat, not even an American for that matter. I tend to be more conservative in my leanings but the way they skewer anyone they suspect of being a Democrat is plain silly.
When I was an (VERY briefly) active member of RR I wanted to post, "I bet a lot of you will be shocked when you get to heaven and see that there are... GASP!...DEMOCRATS there!!" But I didn't because, of course, I thought they'd ban me.
The most ridiculous thing I ever read on RR was a claim by Todd that if Jesus were walking the earth today, He'd be a right-wing Republican.
#62: I have been banned from RR too. I wanted to talk about the rapture could happen on Rosh Hashana...and I got banned after that.
Me: Members regularly use Jewish holidays whenever they date-set the newest time they think the Rapture is going to take place. I’ve seen them warned, but never banned.
On another note, I'm disgusted by the way some members make fun of Muslims who blow themselves up in the name of Allah. I guess those people don't realize it's only by God's grace they ended up living a cushy life and not the hellhole of the Middle East. And they sure don't seem to realize that God cares about everyone, not just middle-class white Americans.
Check out HeIsEnough’s response to a thread discussing kids being brainwashed by the PA:
http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?180713-Girl-on-PA-TV-quot-By-the-blood-of-the-youth-Jerusalem-will-come-back-to-us-quot
Christlike, isn’t it?
I was banned from the Rapture Ready forum in April, 2012, due to a technical error on their end. They refuse to "fix" this error. I've tried to communicate with RR, but to no avail. When I would try and log on I would (and still do) get an error (busy server) page. I really believed these folks were Christians..oh well.
In good company;
just got banned today for posting the origin of the pre-trib theology. the admin says he is against anything catholic, but i got the quick boot when showed the history of how the jesuits created that idea to mislead the protestants.
it saddens me that those people cherry-pick verses to convince themselves that everything past rev 4:1 is irrelevant cuz they wont be here. in the timeline of thing we are more likely at the time of the 3 angel's message and soon to be sealed on our foreheads.
I'm really trying to search that board for this comment made that we shouldn't follow the teachings of Jesus as it will bring us back under the law. did Christ abolish the law ??
I was just banned.No explaination or anything.I did not break any rules.I just said something that the Administrative Mod did not like.No way to get back on the Website to explain.This one particular Administrative Mod is very dangerous to be on a Christian Messageboard and to be an Administrative Mod is even scarier.
I have been to both RR and Rapture Forums. It seems that both sites have the same mindset and intentions of each other, but RF being the worst of the two. I had joined RF to seek counsel and advice on a personal family matter and anything that could help me with forgiving others during my time of crisis. As a non-denominational Christian, I was shocked with the replies and advice that were given to me. That advice (and the scriptures) given by some of the longtime members were out in left field and were totally unrelated to my issue as I had described in to them in depth. I thought it was odd as the discerning spirit in me, told me right away this was not the right spiritual advice. That was my first and last post and right then and there, I read the entire Bible from cover to cover within this last year. I found my spiritual counsel first hand from getting to know the Lord closer and in depth, especially when I read the words of our Lord when He said, “For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you." (Matthew 6:14). Out of all the advice and the listings of scripture they posted to me, NOT ONE PERSON mentioned what Jesus said about forgiveness, nor posted Matthew 6:14.
These boards truly do seem to be cult-like and the mentalities of "so-called" Christians to fellow Christians on RF are sad, unloving, hostile, and inappropriate. Even though I am not a member of both sites, I do visit the current events and prophecy boards because I know there are some genuine brothers and sisters in Christ who are true watchmen on wall according to what is going on in the world. But then, at the same time, I see longtime members who think they are "know-it-alls" of Bible prophecy and current events because they work with the U.S. government, have inside sources of foreign affairs, blah, blah, with a "I'm better and holier-than thou" attitude and use that to harshly berate and belittle those genuine members. The Lord blesses all His children with different talents and gifts. Some are blessed to understand scripture more than others. And if a fellow sister or brother does not fully understand or might be mistaken regarding scripture, then with loving care in the name and presence of the Lord, a fellow servant should correct them in a loving and descent manner.
Those Christians need to stop and think... would Jesus do and say to others as they are doing?! I think not! And how would they like it if the Lord admonished them in such a way publicly?!
The Lord Jesus says in Revelation that He will "Rebuke and chasten those that He loves," and I pray these unloving and hostile Christians repent and turn from their current evil ways... for the Lord is coming soon!
To follow up on some contributions, notice that rapture ready does have its own wonky areas in dovtrine too:
1. The forum refuses to take a stand on the issue of the charismatic movement in general. Traditional dispensationalists had been against the charismatic movement having been cessationist. However, aboput 50% of the registered posters on the forum are Pentecostal or charismatic in theology, and RR therefore refuses to censure charismatic movement. Any posts that relate to the charismatic movement's tongues, dreams/visions, oral prophetic words, healings, are wrong, were banned on the grounds that they are too subjective, rather than being fundamentally unbiblical. If you dare criticize the charismatic movement, you will get booted fairly quickly.
2. The more doctrinal wing of dispensationalism is calvinistic in theology. As RR has taken a stand against Calvinism to any degree (it's not only full five pointers like Charles Spurgeon, but even very moderately Calvinistic like Lewis Chafer or scores of early dispensationalists) will land you in hot water. You can't post anything mroe calvinistic than Jack Kelley and even many parts of GotQuestions.org have a "caution" stamped on it by their moderators. This is dishonesty because anytime you needed to post the theology of dispensationalism beyond the populist sensational signs stuff, you will find a Calvinist not far away.
3. The moderators actively discourage posters to do Bible study and formulate arguments in their own words from the Scriptures. Most of the time any questions tend to be closed by the moderators by quoting (a) Jack Kelley, (b) GotQuestions.Org (some parts discouraged because it is calvinistic), and (c) Some types of Calvary Chapel source materials. The moderator team does operate on "trusted posters mode" that grants exceptions to not allowing independent doctrinal arguments and researches to only a select few, and mostly to only two members in the RR's own moderator team: one is an ordained Calvary Chapel minister, and the other is an instructor in psychology and philosophy at a tertiary level institution.
4. RR also refuses to condemn the use of secular psychology in churches. There is a lot of psychology mixed with Christianity there, and I dare say it is becoming much more pronounced as time wears on.
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5. You will notice that there is a subtle level of difference between the moderator team: the tertiary-level instructor that I wrote above is noticeably more mainstream/wobbly than the rest of the team. She does not agree that psychology is anti-Christian (indeed RR refuses to condemn the use of secular psychology in counselling professing believers) and although she's a six day creationist and dispensationalist in prophecy, her views on apologetics is noticeably on the liberal end of evangelical Christianity - to her, presuppositional apologetics simply doesn't quite exist because it is calvinistic, full stop. There is also a double standard: the RR moderator team collectively failed to censure her for speaking highly of Mark Driscoll's work on her personal blog while you wouldn't survive 5 minites if you post any of Driscoll's stuff on contextualization or contemplative materials.
6. From the aggressiveness, the only other female moderator still active, and who is also the front face most of the time, is aggressively militantly anti-calvinist. This person is an angry pre-tribber and I've seen her ruthhless stomping of any opponents to her beliefs even on tertiary doctrines like denominations and church music - in general, the RR moderator team does nopt tolerate anyone that want anything other than mainstream CCM - Christy Nockel is okay but Kristyn Getty is a no-no for the Calvinism.
7. Of the male moderators, other than the Calvary Chapel minister (and I still respect him a lot because he is a very sensible guy, probably the only person that balances between contending for the doctrine and serving with humility) the major webmaster guy is behind all the computer hacks etc, and the other guy (who regularly publishes articles on RR's sister website) is a stereotyped angry shoting independent fundamentalist Baptist minus the no-CCM and no-charismatic stuff stance. This guy will not hesitate to show off his big stick in front of anyone who dares to oppose him, and he is another guy that basically believes calvinism is of the devil stuff.
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Does anybody know how to delete a RR account? I had been placed on apolo only for seeking advice about a woman I know claiming to speak to dead people. I just went for advice on how to deal with this, and they put me apolo only. Then I was not able to message any mods to explain myself. I was not able to post anywhere or message anyone. So I made a new account, but they know it's me because I'm not allowed in some areas. After reading several of these posts, I'm extremely worried and want to delete my account ASAP.
I was banned from the RR message board and was not even warned or told that they were banning me.Buzzardhut just disabled my computer.He is a dicator.He just banned me because he did not agree with me.
Anon 178, I have no idea if you can disable your account yourself or not.
I have been a member of rr-bb for quite awhile--long before the split of rr and prophecy fellowship. It pains me to see the direction RR has taken over the years. I read periodically over there, but rarely post.
Perhaps someday they will see their error and repent. As the site stands now, it is a terrible witness to the unsaved. With the new Pope's election today, I cannot even get on RR. If any random lurker or member of the press decides to peruse around for a bit, it will not take them long to see the heavy handedness and lack of grace from the administration.
In response to post #74, there is a thread on Rapture Forums recently that is verbatim to what was described. A so-called "Christian" know-it-all can't handle any truth, discussion, debate, nor disagreement if anyone challenges him in any way. If you don't believe in anything he says, or counter him with facts, it's his way or the highway!
http://www.raptureforums.com/forum/prophecy-end-times-chat/74025-fresh-look-revelation-13-17-a-4.html
The moderators are at it again! Three people voiced their disagreement with a popular but controversial Bible prophecy teacher which is endorsed by the moderator team. The teacher said in a few previous works that he was confident the rapture would have occured by the end of the 1980s (and later, when that did not happen, changed to "Christians should nto prepare to be here by the year 2000"). The moderators challenged the few guys to produce quote, and when they did as requested, suddenly all became lawyers arguing about the weight of the word "if".
It was clear to everyone that the moderators lost the argument very badly, and then they decided to frame two of the three people as sock puppets, and proceeded to destory the raw evidence that they lost the arguments beforehand. But before that, they got a few their diehard faithful asking provocative questions whether they are sock puppets, then one of the moderators said "No. But another poster was using an alias." when he was clearly referring to these two people. One critic that wrote longer reasoned rebuttals was quickly stripepd of his member status, while the otehr had most of the substantial posts removed.
The worst thing was, the moderators at the end were feigning humility. One was mincing out these words "We are HUGE into second chances. Sometimes that just prolongs the inevitable it seems, but we always try to let folks repent and join us in fellowship. Everyone I've ever escorted or seen escorted to the door, has brought it upon themselves."
I'm sure he was writing these words with crocodile tears in his eyes. Talk about not making false witnesses...
PS: I'm a dispensationalist myself, but I have had a lot of doctrinal issues with the way that particular popular prophecy teacher has presented his discussions and speculations over the years. Even many dispensational teachers do not agree with large parts of that person's teachings, even though he produced the bestselling book of the 1970s and early 1980s on the subject of Bible prophecy.
I was banned at Rapture Ready for saying that the Antichrist will not be possessed by Satan for the full second half of the 7 years. That, like Judas, he will be only entered to by Satan for a brief period...to carry out the act of going into the temple and claiming to be God. Which God will have him killed for such action.
Anyway, the moderators just couldn't handle any kind of debate or discussion on the topic - so they started attacking me accusing me of things I did not say or write... putting words into mouth and then using those to ban me...no matter how nice I tried to treat them.
I think it is because they promote a certain handful of prophecy teachers, such as Terry James, and anyone making posts that don't line up with the expressed teachings of their approved list is banned.
The site is cult-like in its behavior.
My conclusions is that the moderators/administrators are incompetent to enter a discussion on anything they haven't heard before because their biblical prophecy knowledge is very superficial and they cover it up by attacking posters who write something they have not heard before.
My suggestion is to stay away from that site.
Anon 181, I saw that go down. It wasn't pretty. The RR mods started calling one of those intelligent posters a 'troll', which was downright sickening. All that person was doing was pointing out the popular author's frequent tendency to set dates for the rapture.
Paul used to call out false teachers in the early Christian church and rightly so, because when you set yourself up as a bible teacher you're held to a higher level of accuracy. If he was on RR and criticized Lindsey he'd be called a 'troll' and shown the door!
By the way, I found it funny how nobody at RR mentioned Lindsey's other claim that never came to pass. Namely the skirmish between Israel and Gaza late last year, which he confidently asserted was the start of the Psalm 83 war. When the hostilities died down Lindsey didn't say a word about it. Neither did anyone on RR.
@ #45 (LindaR)
Hey Linda! This is poster #43/44. I just now read your post. Yup, that was me you PM'ed. Glad we're able to followup with each other. I felt so bad that I couldn't respond to your kind PM. Sorry you've been banned for no reason as well.
To #180 - had my own experience with that person. In fact, very evil if I must say, and confronting his obvious ignorance was in part of the reason I was red flagged, and then banned. He has no knowledge of the Word himself, he is an imposter, and an outright bully, without question.
To#182 In full agreement. The Mods and Admins are very ignorant regarding His Word. Only I would say rather than anything they “haven’t heard”, but rather they are pure cut and paste, plagiarists. They have to be, because as you said, they have no knowledge of His Word, they are COMPLETELY void of the Holy Spirit! Very dark…
To#181-183 I have to disagree with your subject matter regarding the Bible Prophecy teacher you are both referring to. As much as it makes me cringe, I do have to agree with the Mods at RR on this one. For years there have been misquotes of him etc. I will NOT engage in a discussion here about it, but rather defend a Brother. Over 25 years ago, I was invited to a very small gathering of Christians by a friend, I didn’t want to go, but gave in at the last minute. We went, and to make a long story short, I left that gathering SAVED. Who lead this small gathering? The person you are referring to, and he personally led me to Jesus. It was the most awesome,( as the Lord would have it ) unexpected moment in my life. I also ended up briefly attending his then Church, until I had to move away. Again, as the Lord would have it, He has grown me in Prophecy for many years now, to the point where I don’t agree with some of what this dear Elder Brother says. That’s ok, we can agree to disagree in a respectful way, as it should be. I can only say this, NO MATTER WHAT, the MOST important Service to the Lord that this dear Elder Brother has, is to lead the lost to the Lord! Without question! He is a VERY humble, and wonderful Servant of the Lord Jesus…
Banned from BuzzardHuts sister site called Rapture Forums for asking a question about why someone wasn't able to post.
I can't PM, I can't post, change my personal setting or view other members profiles, so I assume that is being banned? It has been a few days now. I noticed the PM system has now conveniently got a glitch & not working. I would guess they don't want any messages from other forum members as to why some people are missing or why some can't post?
At last count there are about 8 that I know of like me can't post have had their Avatars removed and Signatures. Of course the PM is down. I found I could still Chat so I got into the Chatroom and the person I had a chat with is now having the same trouble.
So far I have had a bit of information come thorugh to me on RR and I have a totally different userid on RR so I don't want to lose contact with a few people there.
A little Gestapo overkill and NONE of us know why?
Not a good witness for the Lord.
For a while now many of us have been treading on eggshells because Buzz can swoop into a thread out of the Blue (you don't know when he is active so it is a surprise to see him posting) and berate some person for having an opinion he disagrees with and being very aggressive and rude (breaking his own rules of not attacking a person). The poor poster hasn't broken any rules just given their viewpoint and not even been sarcastic or anything like that.
I'm a woman and may I say even most women going through the change of Life have less mood swings than the Mods of RR and RF.
So ToddS and his team have been shown for who they are and I kept thinking they were getting better. No amount of prayer will change them they have to Humble themselves before the Lord.
I'm sad but not upset I was thinking it might be time to find a new place to Fellowship due to the way in which a few Believers were treated by the Mods recently and God allowed it so I can move on.
Praying for all here to heal and continue in their walk with the Lord. Remember we are all accountable to God for our OWN actions. We all fail God and others from time to time. We are all accountable for every careless word we speak. I'm hoping this is OK before the Lord.
Venting so I can move on. May God forgive me if this was wrong but I can't contact anybody from the Rapture Forums (who isn't also on RR), I don't have their email addresses. Never mind I will find other God will take of them and I can trust them to him.
God Bless. Thanks for giving me a place to vent. Time to forgive, move on (leave both RR & RF) and Trust in the Lord for each day until we are all gathered together to the Lord in Heaven where we there is no sin and we will all have peace and only godly relationships and where Jesus is King, Amen.
YSIC
Hi, this is Meg from Rapture Forums; I left RF voluntarily a few weeks ago, banned from RR a couple of years ago.
The comments posted here are very illuminating. Thank you Kingdom Studies for hosting this thread, as many people have been hurt by the mods and admin at RR and RF as well... This Blog thread goes a long way to help us not blame ourselves!
I was involved in RF for something like 4 years, my husband was also heavily involved for longer than that. We knew RR was problematic, but RF used to be decent until after Obama got elected and the extremist Right shifted into high gear. Both RR and RF are now far Right extremist boards, which should explain a lot especially to non Americans, to whom I would say, no, all Americans are not that way. The people who post at those boards represent a small very vocal minority of American Christians who have been listening to talk radio for too long.
All I can say is this:
http://www.raptureforums.com/SeanOsborne/index.cfm
RF now embraces right-wing extremism. Just read the boards and see for yourself.
BTW: The admin saw fit to talk to my wife behind my back and could not be bothered to speak to me directly. The last straw was that stupid gun thread. When I PM'ed the admin at RF to close my account, they banned me and posted the reason as "too manic-depressive for this board". After more than 4 years on there trying to fight off FUD and extremism, I was essentially labelled "mentally ill" by them.
All because I disagreed.
I know I'll probably be vilified for what I am saying; frankly, I no longer care. I guess some folks feel the Lord should have had the rapture by now, and because it didn't come on their schedule, they are panicking with the hard times now here and what is lurking on the horizon.
The RF I joined and loved is dead.
Conservative extremists now rule that board, and the people who aren't extremists there feel they cannot post freely.
And yes: beware of Buzzardhut. He never got involved in prayer threads, but get a conservative thread going and he was on that like a buzzard on carrion.
In any event, I'm not done. I'm still going to post my articles; just not at RF anymore.
YBIC,
-Robert
I am not a member of RF but read it occassionally. I cannot believe some of the stuff I read on that site in the name of the Lord. I see one woman was literally persecuted because she didn't concede and support the extreme political ideology that the mods uphold and holla to the world. I have not seen her post in a few weeks. A lady who seems to love the Lord with all her heart and yet banished by so call brethren in Christ. What an absolute disgrace of a witness of the Lord to the world. :(
Meg,
Robert.
I was wondering where you guys went to. Now I know. I haven't been on Rapture forums posting but go to see stuff. I don't believe in the Rapture theology anymore as I posted once but, I believe in the second coming as one event but, I have noticed RF is getting hostile.
I am sorry this happened to you. I am probably getting banned for speaking against those Arminians, trying to tell them they don't understand Calvinism.
That Sean Osborne creeps me out. He acts like he alone has a hotline to God and gets spiritual insight directly from Him. Nobody's allowed to question or disagree with Sean's take on anything. Scary, really.
I was banned from Rapture forums (not rapture ready) for confessing different views that they didn't agree with and then messaging a couple people about how dictatorial it had gotten.
I was found out and I was banned stating that I showed 'unsaved behavior' and to get a life.
Rapture Forums is the antichrist it seems (ironically).
Hey I've not been able to have my User PM restored on RF or RR.
So I have started my own blog. It's not for bagging the rapture forums but as I miss being able to contact people privately on these sites. Actually on RF I can't even post there.
My PM's were certainly read. I never openly on the forum or in my PMs directed any kind of offensive criticsm. I was questioning what was going on with other members on the forum privately and asking others if they knew. In my PMs I did point out I thought the Mods were being too over the top in having banned certain people and scratching my head why others remained despite openly breaking forum rules and being abusive to other members. So I noted an inconsistent treatment by the Mods to various members.
Anyway all water under the bridge.
My blog is for the purpose of reconnecting with RF (current members or banned). Hope to hear from you.
Melissa
I find this remark, "showing unsaved behavior and get a life" remarks coming from people who proclaim themselves Christian leaders just stunning. Unfortunately, those same people are also known to boast about their "discernment" skills... They have no business slandering Christianity and Jesus Christ in public with the way they carry on. It really makes me wonder, do they even really believe in the Lord, or are they hostile fakes? I know these words are going to infuriate someone, but really, I hope once the perp cools off, that individual does some serious self examination. And if you are indeed a fake, please know this, Jesus Christ is real. There is no fault in God, the fault lies in the subjective misunderstanding of Scripture...
In Christ, in spite of much trouble and suffering, Meg
Agreed on all counts, Meg.
The teaching on the Rapture was supposed to comfort us; but it has been turned into a point of contention and sadly, used as a bludgeon. Then there's the whole "discernment" issue, which has done more to harm and vilify than it has to separate fiction from fact.
To folks out there: if you're hurting, grieving or otherwise spiritually hurting, know that the Lord has not abandoned you. Please don't mistake the anger and grievous behavior of others for the Lord not caring; that's not how He operates. He's not going to force people to do His will, but rather work besides their mistakes and sometimes even through them.
If you are wounded, please come find us.
(((hugs)))
YBIC,
-Robert
Yepp, banned after about one week. Warningbells is everywhere! Self -proclaimed prophets of judging others!
Oh wow. "Tom Skylark" is now posting his Russian theories on RR! He even endorses the Fatima Prophecy:
"The Fatima Prophecy says Russia will be incorporated into the Roman Catholic Church seems like a temporary marriage which will end when Russia Gog's army is blasted to pieces upon the mountains of Israel. (Ezekiel 39:1-4) Putin therefore will be used by the Vatican until the time when Russia loses its status as a rising world superpower and which time then the Vatican's superpower friend the anti-Christ will then arise to power."
Link here: http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?189821-The-Gog-amp-Magog-Ezekiel-38-39-Prophecy-Seems-to-Be-Progressing&p=2435754#post2435754
Unbelievably, vbf says in the middle of this crazy discussion, "I think God is pleased by reading these threads. :)"
RR mods are true hypocrites. Stay away from that site!
When the rapture doesn't come when people think it should, they get flakier and flakier and come up with all sorts of outlandish stuff. The rapture is for the Lord to come collect what is rightfully HIS: the Bride. it is not specifically just to "rescue" us: if the Lord wanted to keep us safe, He wouldn't be limited to just taking us up; God has means to protect even in the middle of a tempest.
Another thing they forget: before the Lord, they are going to have to give an account of every word they have said. Imagine the horror and grieving when they discover their words were not of the Lord and burn up when tested by fire?
GOD DOESN'T PLAY GAMES.
After reading all these testimonies and seeing for myself how they are, I got to agree with all these comments and I left that website. Their behavior to non-conservative members are anything but Christian.
When I first signed on, it took me a while to get validated and at the time I thought that they got a lot of trolls so they had to have this system. Instead, they expect you to meet their standards before you can get membership based on the fact that they dig up dirt on you. Nice to know that I'm potentially being cyber stalked by a fundamentalist 'Christian' cult and am likely going to be banned for making this post.
To meet their standards, you got to be right wing and believe in their own theology. If it conflicts with their own, they intimidate you into silence or submission or you get banned. I got to say I am surprised I wasn't banned already. Here's a couple incidents I had:
1) Their hatred for homosexuals is sickening. I don't personally condemn homosexuality but neither do I support it due to my religious beliefs but they think that all homosexuals are disease-ridden sexual deviants who want to destroy Christianity and should be stripped of all rights. I pointed this out and they acted as if it didn't really happen. iSong had the nerve to ask me to show me some threads so he could do something about it. Gee whiz, the very same topic had people say demeaning things about homosexual people. In fact, go to FSTDT.com and there are plenty of examples. They have a persecution complex and yet they persecute anyone who doesn't fit their ideals of a person, especially if they're homosexual.
2) Another time they were discussing Earth Day saying that it was a pagan conspiracy to undermine the USA or something. One person pointed out that Earth Day was a day to remember that we only have one Earth and that we should take care of it. I made a post to agree and a user named Gideon300 started posting links to try to prove that Earth Day really was pagan. I told him that I don't agree and he told me that I am blind to the world around me and that I should leave the website. Yeah, real Christ-like, buddy.
After that incident I left. They love to judge people all around them and yet if they get judged, they will say, "Oh I am a humble sinner so don't judge lest you be judged the same way!" After reading a bunch of posts on FSTDT I see that they don't actually do anything to solve the world's problems but instead sit and wait for the rapture and condemn others while at it. They are modern day Pharisees and Ronald Reagan is their god.
I will add my story here, having been recently banned from the rr-bb.com forum. I think the RR forum population has declined quite a bit in recent years, and the only thing I can say is "hopefully that trend will continue!" Not just because they are preaching the lie of the pre-trib rapture, but because the mods are basically liars and quite arrogant to boot.
I was recently banned by Steve53 of the "mod squad" who apparently believes that the moderator's job is to stand in the middle of every conversation and speak for one side or the other. He was constantly in my face, answering for people who were in MY conversation (not his), telling me how to answer other people, pressuring me to answer questions that HE thought I should answer, etc. I really tried to be nice and respectful.
NOTE TO RR MODS: your job is to help make sure the board experience is a good one. It isn’t your job to dictate the flow of conversations. If I decide to have a conversation with you, that’s my choice and I will answer you how I wish (within the rules of course). When you engage in conversation, you are MERELY A PARTICIPANT just like everyone else. You don’t get to dictate how I engage with you and you certainly don’t get to tell me how to answer others.
When Steve53 finally insisted that I answer certain questions about my beliefs before I would be allowed to continue - and after the mods changed my settings taking away my ability to PM anyone - I said "enough is enough" and voluntarily left.
On the way out I told them they were acting like bad Christians, not showing love, and I would be sure to tell everyone I could about this so they would be avoided.
Well, the gloves came off after that. They banned me, of course, but they forgot to block my cellphone IP address so I got to see the conversation they had after I left. Steve53 absolutely LIED about me in the following ways:
- He labeled me a “troll”. Anyone who read the thread would see this was false. The thread was 5 pages of dialog and I clearly wasn’t trolling. I was engaged with multiple people in conversations and sometimes I agreed. Any challenges I raised were not to any core doctrine of theirs. Just talking about how we interpret scripture and whether we should obey the Bible (of all things). Those conversations were just too much for Steve53. He would rather we just bow down and worship everything he says as Lord and Master of All.
- Steve53 claimed that I had a “record of ejection from other Christian and non-Christian sites alike”. This is a LIE, used by Steve53 to paint the picture that I have a habit of trolling so the others would back up his decision. He knows good and well that PeterBruce is a screen name that has never even been used on any other message boards, so he has no idea who I am. And if he did know who I really am, he would find that I have NEVER been kicked off any message boards – Christian or not. In fact I have only been involved in about 6 boards since 1998.
STAY AWAY FROM THIS PLACE and tell others.